Episode 87 - Mastering the Mindset: Michael Sartain on Confidence and Attraction

Summary:

In this episode of Maxed Out Man, host Kevin Davis speaks with Michael Sartain, a performance coach and founder of the Men of Action program. Michael dives deep into what truly attracts women to men, debunking common myths about looks and wealth while exploring status, confidence, and behavioral cues that signal attraction. 

He shares insights from evolutionary psychology, explaining concepts like "mate choice copying" and "pre-selection." The discussion also highlights the importance of social proof, competence, and establishing boundaries in relationships. Michael’s program emphasizes self-improvement through leadership, social dynamics, and living with integrity, helping men build authentic connections and reach their full potential.

Key Takeaways:

1. Social Proof Matters: Women are drawn to men who are respected and admired by others; being seen with high-status individuals boosts perceived attractiveness.
2. Competence Over Wealth: Real attraction comes from confidence and capability, not just financial success.
3. Boundaries Are Key: Setting clear boundaries is essential in relationships; doing everything a partner wants can be perceived as weakness.
4. Integrity and Accountability: Living with honesty and purpose builds trust and confidence, which are fundamental to successful relationships.
5. Self-Improvement Through Action: Building attraction and influence requires ongoing self-improvement, showing up authentically, and embracing growth.

Here are the main strategies Michael Sartain recommends for attracting and building successful relationships:

1. Leverage Social Proof and Pre-Selection:
   • Surround yourself with high-status individuals and be seen in positive social contexts, as people (especially women) are naturally attracted to men respected by others. Displaying pre-selection—being around women who are interested in you—also boosts attractiveness.
2. Develop Competence and Confidence:
   • Rather than focusing solely on money or looks, men should work on personal skills and competencies. This includes charisma, humor, and the ability to navigate social situations, all of which signal high social value and self-assuredness.
3. Create and Maintain Boundaries:
   • In relationships, Michael emphasizes that doing everything a partner asks can be counterproductive, as it can signal a lack of backbone. Instead, maintain your values and boundaries to show strength and consistency.
4. Embrace Integrity and Accountability:
   • Be honest and purposeful in your actions. Integrity in words and behavior builds trust, while a commitment to self-improvement fosters authentic connections and makes you more attractive long-term.
5. Prioritize Action and Self-Improvement:
   • The “Men of Action” approach encourages continuous self-growth through setting and accomplishing personal goals. Michael’s philosophy highlights that the best way to improve social and relationship dynamics is through action, not just theory.

These strategies together create a foundation for building not just attraction but also meaningful, resilient relationships.

Learn More: https://www.moamentoring.com/ & The Michael Sartain Show podcast

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Transcript

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my number one piece of advice when men are choosing a long-term partner uh is
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like the number one red flag I would look for is does she require great levels of stimulus in order for her to
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feel satisfied welcome to maxed out man
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helping you become the man you were made to be hey guys this is Kevin Davis from the
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maxd man podcast today I'm going to here be here with Michael Stine uh super excited to have him on board I already
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had a couple technical ISS so this should be fun appreciate your patience with that Michael but hey before you
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guys uh before we get started go to max out man.com check out what we've got going on there and don't forget to rate
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and review this podcast on all of your favorite podcast platforms Michael sertin is a performance coach Air Force
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Navigator instructor and host uh in 2019 he launched men of action a program
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committed to guiding men and elevating their status cultivating an abundant lifestyle forming connections with Elite
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individuals and gaining access to VIP events all within a span of under 25 days of
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the program with over 2200 success stories men of action is making a significant impact and additionally
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Michael is the host of the Michael sertin podcast Michael Stine Show
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podcast hey man thanks so much for your patience uh truth be told I forgot to hit record on the first two minutes of
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this podcast so it was great it yeah that that was the best 2 minutes I've ever done and it wasn't captured for
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posterity but we did get the 2200 right uh with the success story so hey man
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thanks for being here I appreciate it and um I'd love to hear more about kind of how you got here your story kind of
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what led you here thank you for your service by the way for your military service um side not my daughter's in the
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Army and she hates it when I say that so well thank you for your service yeah you just kind of get used to it man I mean
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it's just like imagine our super hot girl is like wow you're really pretty after a while they're like okay cool you know what saying or how what do you
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think Rogan's like every day he's like oh I love your podcast he's like that's right I'm sure I'm sure he probably he
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probably gets that right but I mean at the same time most people are and and she's had this conversation most people
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are genuinely thankful for the sacrifice that men and women make so that's and I am one of those I never did military um
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so I kind of Li but I'm super thankful for those uh that did so anyway thank you for that but give us your backstory
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kind of tell us how you got here how you got to Men of action and everything you've got going on right now well uh so
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you know like a lot of people when you're younger say in my 20s I was a a freshman at University of Texas at
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Austin and I remember there was a guy I um I was a freshman with and he played
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on the baseball team and this guy was I didn't understand at the time this guy was so good-looking that he ends up
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being on The Bachelor by the way he's or on The Bachelorette he's one of the guys on The Bachelor he he was like a top three finalist anyway we we're College
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freshman together and I remember going to a party and never having experience before where women not only didn't even
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notice I was in the room but they were L literally asking me to hold the camera to take pictures of them with him and
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from my standpoint as a dude like I can't tell the difference that he's I mean I know he's better looking than me but like it was it was absurd like the
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attention that he would get from women well I mean and I mean in all in all seriousness like from a purely objective
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heterosexual man perspective you're a good-looking guy right if you're not if you're not watching this go to YouTube
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and you can see Michael Michael is a very attractive man so anyway I I don't know how attractive I was at at at 19
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but the the the thing is so I I just noticed there was this like massive difference the other thing is though he
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also got like a lot of opportunities that I didn't get um you know where he got invited to certain stuff and you
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know we didn't have podcasting and and social media back then but it was very clear to me that women sort of bifurcated men into a higher status
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Arena and a lower status Arena this is something later on when I started studying evolutionary psychology
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ironically the leader in that subject on Earth is Dr David bus who also went to
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the University of Texas at Austin I did not meet Dr bus when I was in when I was a student there uh since then we've met
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since I've graduated um and he's he's been instrumental in me creating this program because he basically took a lot
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of things that you and I probably take for granted and he started doing studies on them so we could understand these Concepts better so some of the things
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one of the things I wanted to understand is like is it just with men is it just being goodlook is it just being rich are
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those the only things and there's some people who believe that they're called black pillar and they legitimately believe all that matters is your
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physical appearance to women and if you don't have a physical appearance then you need money um and EI kind of either
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or because a lot of these I had this conversation with my wife the other day we're like all right so you got basos
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right basos super rich now and he's on trt so he's been working out and you
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know and obviously has a new girlfriend every week or whatever but like if there's there's also a lot of rich men
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that have no attractiveness whatsoever and they still seem to have pull that same same thing so so the thing is I I I
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started to look for these attraction qualities and I I spent probably the next 20 years looking at guys who are
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really really good with women and guys who weren't now before we go any further this turns into um actual attributes for
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status for not just attracting women but just in general these evolutionary um
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cues that that exist in humans that cause people to just be higher status and lower status this goes every this
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also includes Concepts in leadership if you read any of jao Wick's books uh like the idea of extreme ownership dichotomy
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of leadership this also goes back to that like why is it that men men generally see the world more in a
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meritocracy so like for instance if we have a hunting party and you and I go hunting with a group of 10 other men if
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there's one Hunter who's a bit older than us and he catches more game than we do on a regular basis he will be our
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leader by default because he's more competent and generally in male dominated societies men uh men see o men
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rank other men as far as um competency is concerned the quarterback's generally
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the highest paid player on the team he's always a captain you know on the football team that kind of thing all right so now uh so I started looking I
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was like okay what are these attributes that cause people to to gain higher sexual selection and higher status and I
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started looking at a lot of them and then like you said before there's a short guy who's not very attractive and he's got a gorgeous girlfriend what's
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going on here and I started paying attention to uh these guys who were very successful I remember later on in life
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um I went on a date with who I thought at the time was the prettiest girl I'd ever seen in Austin Texas and we go on a
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date and the date goes well and then she basically totally friendzones me outward this this would have been gosh it been
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like 26 years ago and her and I are still friends by the way and a week later so I'm working at a nightclub I'm
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a bouncer at a nightclub she comes back into the nightclub with another guy
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who's about six Ines shorter than me um and he comes in there and he's got this look on his face like he's just ready to
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fight looks very confident like very cocky um and a couple months later she
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has a baby with him so here I was I want you to consider this concept like here I
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was like oh I'm I'm just being super nice to this girl she's really pretty she's obviously physically attracted to
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me maybe we can make this work this other guy comes in and he's got I got to I got to know him he became one of my
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best friends his name Ison and I just noticed like this in unbelievable level of entitlement when it came to women and
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he wasn't like particularly good-look or anything like that this guy had like multiple baby mamas like it was just one
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of these things and I was just like okay what is the part that I'm missing here uh and I I would ask you know her the
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girl like years later I was like what is that you found attractive about him he like he was just so confident I was like okay cool so now I know being really
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good-looking is a great way to get women being confident these are going to be seem like very obvious to people the difference is what we did was actually
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study them and actually see how well one of them work so the big one is this this is the one where a lot of people don't
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really understand and the main one that uh that everyone gets for free Kevin that every guy gets for free that most
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men don't understand is this concept in Psychology called mate Choice copying if you guys want to look up in evolutionary
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biology it's called mate Choice copying or it mate Choice copying in humans would be in evolutionary psychology uh
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is this concept where you have a two-gender species and this generally affects women way more than men
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if you see a man so for instance whenever I go out here on the street one of my friends is Steve Demopolis he's
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like the biggest lawyer in the city he's got a huge billboard and it says you know demopoulos law we win it just says
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this we win picture of his fist that's it uh billions won something like that right and so you see that you're like oh
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gosh billions have W from this guy I need to I it's social proof I want to go to him right so we understand this
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concept of social proof with women though there's two things going on here there's social proof so you can see that
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this guy's more successful but there's also other women choosing him which is an attraction cue so you think about us
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as a man what do we have we see a really attractive woman and immediately we have perfect information if you saw if you if
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this was 1993 and you bumped into Pamela Anderson you don't even need to know who Pamela Anderson is you would just look
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at her and be like I would date this woman she is so physically attractive I have enough information not to marry her
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not to marry her we can go into this Kevin by the way lower status man probably will marry a man a woman who just because she's physically attractive
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a higher status man who has options probably isn't but we we would definitely go out with her for a woman
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when they look at us as men they have what's called incomplete information they don't know if we're terrible in bed
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if we're going to stalk them if we're physically abusive they don't know there's so many things they don't know when I go out in social situations I
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have two females that are Playmates that I'm very good friends with CJ Sparks and kindley Myers when I go out with them on
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a regular basis I women approach me because they see two stunning women with
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me and they're like both of them have like three million followers on Instagram when they come women will come and approach me because of what I talked
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about before pre-selection or the term is mate Choice copying and make Choice copying also works even if the woman
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isn't dating you so what I decided to do was build a program and now there's several other attraction triggers like
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for instance Charisma is a great one humor is such a chico humor humor truly is the 5 foot two guy who's not very
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good looking who dates the stunning woman the humor is the killer though that is but it's humor is also the most
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difficult one for me to teach and it's really hard is it sustainable right like that's the like is is humor the door
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opener is or is like cuz my wife my wife finds me physically attractive a
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provider all of those things yeah uh but she all one of her favorite things about me is I'm I tend to be funny yeah but
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like if I was just funny and now I weighed 350 pounds because I'd let myself go and I was you know all that
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stuff like how is that is that a long-term differentiator no so so let let's this kind of a different subject
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here but let do you remember if you play Madden or if you play MLB the show or one of these games where the players have attributes I want you to consider
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every attribute you had so like for instance think of like a big defensive tackle he's gonna have 99 strength but
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maybe 67 speed but like Tyreek Hill is gonna have 99 speed and maybe like 70 strength right so there's different
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attributes the answer to your question Kevin is every attribute needs to be up to about an 80 so what you can't be is
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the tall good-looking guy who's fat or smells bad right or you for for a long-term relationship you'll see these
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women will pick like a male stripper for shortterm but long-term would not settle down with him because he does he's not a
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good long-term bet for provisioning so what the the answer is to have all of the like don't have don't be super
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successful attorney with messed up teeth like you need to have all of these attributes because women judge more
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attributes in men than the other way around number one and women are more selective than men this goes back to the 1970s uh a doctor named Robert triers
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came up with this idea of a parental investment hypothesis which me basically means in any two gender species the one
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with a larger sex cell is going to be more picky in Homo sapiens that's females they're going to be more picky
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and the opposite idea which is the the gender that has the smaller sex cell is going to compete with other members of that gender for access to the females
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and that's exactly what we see in homos sap a quick question is there like a you know because I know that selection
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really makes sense is there a fear and provision component are those the two like I don't want to be you know for a
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woman I don't want to be a male stripper because long term like he's good to look at but last for so long and I'm not confident
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that he can actually provide well you you have another issue and that you you also are not confident he's going to be
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um faithful that's the other issue with with that type of for a long term now I can introduce you to a bunch of male
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strippers they don't have any trouble with women they have women throwing themselves at them all constantly and some of the women that throw themselves
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at these guys I've seen them are down for long like I know one woman right now she's dating a male stripper she's a
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therapist and she makes a ton of money and she just doesn't care that he's broke that you that occasionally in
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those boy literal boy toy right but for the most part yeah for the most part that's not the way it's going to work
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right she's she's also a little bit older than him so I think that's why that works but the uh for the most part that's not how you're going to see it so
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going back to what we said before there's all these attraction triggers that men can cue in women so my the two
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best ones that you can do no matter what you look like what your ethnicity is um I have a client right now he's 4 foot1
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he's dating a super super hot girl uh and the reason why is because every time they would hang out he never hit on her
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and he she always saw other women coming and hugging and kissing him and it got to the point where she just got jealous
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and then she started feeling an attraction for him got to know him and then then the thing is women are also
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more likely to sort of ignore physical cues uh than other people than women are
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than men are men are men have a harder time with that so it's a way for men to kind of get around that whole thing
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where it's not always Chad the super good-looking bartender who gets the girl the world doesn't work like that if you
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understand these other Concepts as far as social status sexual selection social networking social proof those things
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were are things that I teach in my course and then I back them up every single one of the theories that I have I
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try to go back and I read Stephen Stewart Williams or Jeffrey Wilson um I'm sorry Jeffrey Miller or
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I'll go back and read uh David bus or Lita cosmes or uh uh John tuby I I'll go back and watch all these evolutionary
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psychologists over the last 50 years and some of the theories that they've come up to explain some of these Concepts and
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it's been really really fantastic in order to do that but in doing so what I also found is that it's not just a
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function of being more attractive to women it's a function of having more status in general now when you have more
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status like often I'll help my client build a brand so let's say I have a client who's who's an accountant and
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he's just hey man uh the women I date are very average I'm not very happy I'm a dating apps uh and then also my job I
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have a hard time like scrounging up business well I have the perfect solution for thisy guy what I would recommend is that he builds a brand so
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maybe direct to camera videos on uh Instagram reals uh Tik Tok and on uh YouTube shorts and then when he does
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those direct to camera videos maybe push some traffic there some boost grow his social media profile and the funny thing
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that happens is and and also make it more interesting I've always said accountants if you're an accountant you should tell the stories about the guy
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trying to hide money trying to evade taxes like you had you an accountant you
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had an account buddy and he was hiding money for a drug de and try to write off his his some prostitutes boob job like
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that's an interesting story you can tell as an accountant to help build a brand now he ends up building the brand he
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goes over these are the three things that you think you can write off that you can't write off I'm gonna listen to that I'm gonna listen to that he builds
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a brand and now he goes on a date for the a time with a really attractive woman and she like doesn't know [ __ ] all
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about this guy and then she goes and looks and she's like oh this guy's got 700,000 followers on Tik Tok what is it
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this video got 8 million views and all a sudden now there's a little sprinkle of Competency and security that goes along
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with this guy to make him a little bit more interesting so he's built a brand and now he has more this is not a
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hypothetical I have Mark perber is one of my clients he's an accountant he literally started doing Zoom calls and
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started doing kind of a live stream podcast and now he's like dude I have more clients than I know what to do with another perfect example of this is a
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good friend of mine named James Sexton he is the most famous divorce attorney in the world James and not James had
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dinner with me for my birthday uh last week and James started going on these podcasts describing like some of the
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difficulties like when it comes to divorce like how women will run to a divorce attorney so that the attorney is
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conflicted out and he can't work for the husband Etc and he started making all these videos and started bringing up all
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these like updated statistics when it came to divorce next thing you know he's on soft white underbelly he's going on uh Lex fredman he's gonna be going on
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Joe Rogan here in the future like and so now I talked to James I was like what's business like he's like I can't scale my
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business because it's just me but my clients are all billionaires now because I can only take the clients that have
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the most money and I just literally I so his capacity as a divorce attorney is at
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10 now because of the fact that he built a brand and whenever I go out with James
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and we're in public women are throwing themselves at him because he's an an extremely popular attorney that lives in
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Manhattan and they know he's extremely successful and so what's happened is what has this brand done this brand that
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he's built for being a divorce attorney of all has made him incredibly successful fin financially and
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Incredibly successful with women although he's in a committed relationship he doesn't need that success but that's one of the things I
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did notice is that women would notice him it's like oh my gosh that's James seon right I saw this guy on Soft White
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underbells and the other thing that's very different Kevin from the time that you and I were growing up is that there was not a mid-tier level of Fame okay
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right like for instance this concept of you and me doing this podcast in 1996 would not have existed because we can't
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we would have to get like I think what it would be like uh what was it television a local access television you
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know I'm talking like PBS channel or something like that that would be the only shot that you and I had to do something like this right there' be no
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profanity there'd be nothing lascivious there'd be no controversial content whatsoever it' have to be extremely Progressive politically Progressive in
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order for us to get away with this yeah um and so we we wouldn't be able to do this so so what's happened now is you
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and I could legitimately start a program let's say you have a coaching program for let's say you talk about how to
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build a podcast you build your coaching program and you build it up to a point where you only have 20,000 people following you on
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Instagram or 10,000 Tik Tok is going to be a little bit more Tik Tok is easier to grow on Tik Tok but the the leads are not very
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good if you guys are trying to build a business you should use Tik to but don't invest a ton in it it's really really
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really poor quality lead unless you're it's cheap PPC but again to your to your point it's really low quality like you
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you get a ton so it doesn't you know it doesn't necessarily pay off depending on what Heros just put out a great video on
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this the the the the S tier is still going to be YouTube and Instagram underneath that is going to be it's
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going to be Facebook and and uh Twitter and then under that is going to be LinkedIn and then at the very bottom is
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going to be Tik Tok so so uh still grow on Tik Tok uh there's still a lot of of room for growth and Tik Tok is probably
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eventually going to get their act together and start figuring out a way for people to monetize for better leads if you have a $3 product Tik Tok is
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actually a great place if you sell supplements for under $10 I would definitely use Tik Tok yeah um but so so
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you he builds a brand on these different platforms uh and then next thing you know like I said before you start having
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this efficacy and people start inviting you on different P PL their podcasts and then maybe on YouTube you get one or two
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videos that have a 100,000 views or 800,000 views next thing you know you've got 20,000 Subs 30,000 I started with
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18,000 when I started my podcast now I'm at 180,000 nice when you do that when you do that what happens is now people
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are going to investigate you generally for women it's going to be way more of a a vanity metric for Instagram and Tik
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Tok for men especially if this guy's in business first thing I'm gonna look at is his Spotify his uh Apple podcast and
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his his YouTube and so now people are doing investigations to kind of see can you back up some of the things you say I
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I see frequently I see guys um they're just wealthy they don't really understand how to build a brand they buy a bunch of Instagram followers then you
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go look at them on on YouTube and they can't they don't even have like 50 views of video but they have a 100,000 views
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on on on Instagram so these Concepts uh that we teach in the program that I'm I'm talking to you about right now are
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things that we I go through and curtail different types of brand building a lot of guys don't want to build a brand they
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just want to have really cool photos and then be able to like deal with other people in from uh social dynamics I
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teach them studies and Leadership how to maintain a relationship I think is a big one I do think there needs to be like
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for instance women definitely do not want to be with a man who cheats but they don't want to be with a man who could right like if you are if you're so
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unattractive as a man that your woman knows that she could literally leave you in a with a pile full of attractive
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women and you couldn't get laid because you're just something's wrong with you she's she's also going to be looking for
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another partner now like there's there's studies that show men who cheat and men who don't cheat in a relationship uh or
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in a marriage have the same level of of marital satisfaction consider that right now men who cheat and men who don't
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cheat report having the same level of marital satisfaction women who cheat 79%
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of the time report having lower satisfaction in the marriage than men who don't women who don't cheat so that's a pretty massive difference
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between men and women that you would discuss there but these are the kind of things that we talk about in the course because a lot of people don't understand
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uh a lot of times for for me it's women who lead relationships about 70 to 80% of the time they're the ones who file
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for divorce about 70 80% of the time and it goes back to the original thing I said before women are more selective
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than men in general and when they don't feel the validation that they were receiving at the beginning of the relationship they're going to get out
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much quicker than men are that's what the studies say and then also when you talk to divorce attorneys they also completely agree with con
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so it's just one of these situations where um you asked me before about where
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we got to this place I got to this place because I started noticing incomplete bad advice or more like pop psychology
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used to treat what men were going through and I didn't want to do that I wanted to use highlevel psychological
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advice by multiple phds and then also apply it with men who are incredibly
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successful in relationships and with women and successful in business and so we come at it from both ends so like we
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will come at dating from the David bus evolutionary psychology end and then we'll come at it from the from the
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incredibly successful like I'm friends with Dan bazaran he's a he's a super extreme example but a guy who basically
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used massive levels of Fame and pre-election to get women lined up to try to go out even today that still
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happens so that those are those are kind of things that I would teach men and it was really amazing when I started the
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course I had an idea of how successful it would be but I didn't recognize that
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it would be this like I didn't recognize that no one else was teaching this and I mean no one no one was teach even if you
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look right you go chat gbt right now and look up Social Circle coaches it's like just me there really aren't any Social
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Circle it's just me and um the idea of like there's there's networking coaches
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but networking coaches are almost exclusively business oriented and I was what I was doing was taking the because
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I understood that the con the highest level Concepts from dating and the highest level Concepts from business ended up being the same contest when you
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get to the like uh avoiding beta behavior when it comes to avoiding neediness the ability to walk away these
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are things you do in high level negotiation and you do in dating and so when I started seeing that that's what I
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started teaching and then the course just blew up in part because I just had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
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testimonials of guys showing me not by the way we don't we don't let you tell us you have to show us if there's been a
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change in your life you're all a sudden dating an amazing woman or your life sh you have to show we you come on the Tuesday calls and you have to show us
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there's no talking we don't talk about stuff on our program we only show um and
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that's why it's because it's called the men of action course and that's another thing that's it's just created an environment of men uh just basically
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building each other up giving accountability and feedback uh just an amazing network of upstanding men
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and the other thing is uh a function of morality I I also think and you've probably seen this too where I feel like
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there's a younger generation that is very much willing to promise things that they cannot back up uh and in men of
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action one of the rules we have is we always under promise and overd deliver uh it's a very and also you know from
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the cadet code of conduct from the US military I will not lie cheat or steal nor will I tolerate anyone amongst us
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who does there's a way for you to be incredibly charismatic and Incredibly interesting to people while also always
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telling the truth that's another thing that we try to teach in the program that I think is very different from what a
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lot of other people teach it's an integr piece right like you're you're honing in on that Integrity piece that women seem
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to have [ __ ] detect pretty good [ __ ] detectors some some don't care like the the thing is women's attraction
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cues are so varied uh I know women who absolutely date scum scumbags and you know them too like they're they're
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absolutely all they do is they they're just attracted to one scumbag after another and then they want to blame men for what why they have these issues uh
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and then there's other guys who are full of integrity and are just kind of getting stepped over Stepped On by women so it works both ways having some level
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of integrity works but the thing is this right women will say something like I want a man to buy me flowers what they mean is I want a man I'm attracted to to
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buy me flowers women will say I want a man to be more vulnerable what they mean is I want a man I'm attracted to to be
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more vulnerable the problem is men I consistently hear this dating advice
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from women and men and it's usually very poor about men need to step up men need
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to open doors men like all there's all these things and while in general the world would be a better place if men did
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these things that's not why women are picking them they're picking men they are attracted to let me say that again
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because so some of you it's like this seems so obvious women pick men they are attracted to attraction cues that men
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give to women things that trigger attraction in women are very well understood at this point they've been
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studied over and over again you can read any evolutionary psychology textbook on on what these attraction cues are and if
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you do them you will have success and access to women if you don't do these things you will not no matter how much
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money you have if you have a lot of money and don't understand attraction cues you're just a Target to to uh
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Financial Predators uh again you must understand attraction cues in order to
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make this work unless you're incredibly good looking in which in which case you don't have to understand attraction cues
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you just are an attraction queue uh but for the most part gu guys who understand these attraction cues they're the ones
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who do well and it's just attraction in the beginning you all the other stuff that they talk about is I need a man
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who's with Integrity who wants to raise a child I'm like I promise you you've gone on dates with men who don't have
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integrity and have no interest in being in a committed relationship with you and you just thought they were hot attraction is your Prime objective as a
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man in the beginning and then after a while you can work on those other things but I think a lot of men are like oh I
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like a you'll hear women say I like a man who's a sapio I'm a saposexual I like a man who reads a lot of books and
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then you just go up to a girl be like hey I read a lot of books and watch she's not going to go on a date with you she's not in you at all because what
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she's saying is I want a man I'm attracted to to read a lot of books and so but women leave the Attraction part
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out it's like trying to explain to a fish what water is they can't conceive of the idea of not being in water women
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cannot conceive of the idea of being attracted to someone they don't find attracted so they always leave the part
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out is the part they leave out is I I don't want a man to buy any flowers I want a man I'm attracted to to buy me flowers and so that attraction component
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is integral and if men understood that more they would be having less trouble with women what are some of those
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attraction cues right like we keep talking about it and you kind of you kind of alluded to some of them but like if you just said okay these are some of
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the highlights these are some of the most important ones um what would those what are those so the the biggest ones
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you could you could D you could make derivatives of this to go up to like a hundred different attraction cues but the biggest one for me is going to be
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social status so Fame is a it's a tri social status up to a certain level becomes Fame below that though you're
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still getting a lot of Attraction cues this is something that I found um whenever I host an event uh girls who
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are there with their boyfriends are just staring at me the fame one the like mid- tier level of Fame is probably the most
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uh powerful one and then social status in general after that is going to be pre-selection this is one that's very
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confusing for a lot of people because you're you're G to talk to a woman and she's gonna say something I don't like guys who are surrounded by other women
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but yet you'll see that they they date those same men women will say women will complain about the thing that actually
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affects them I often hear women complain about men who are surrounded by other women but then will still date those men
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okay so that's another one is pre-selection or mate Choice copying being selected by other women is the is
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the next biggest one um after that is going to be a function of Charisma and networking you remember the thing you said about being funny and how she found
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you being funny being attractive so from an evolutionary standpoint you having a sense of humor shows that you have
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higher networking potential meaning you are it's more likely that more High status people are going to want to be
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around you and it's more likely that you are higher intelligence humor is so complicated in order to do that's the
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reason why AI can't quite get it right because it's such a unique like when you and I would react to something funny and
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we would know that it's funny because like no one would have to train us to understand that it's funny but that's
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the thing like for the the AI algorithm quite hasn't got to that point yet where it can figure that out because it's so
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nuanced when women see that a man is is intelligent and by the way this is not happening in the in the foreground it's
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happening in the background it's the subconscious is recognizing this man is probably a good bet for good high status
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networking and protection and provisioning and probably highly intelligent you know I've been super blessed to be able to feed into the
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I hope that we can actually connect in tell now here's here's a funny one you want to know what is not an attraction
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trigger and women are going to disagree with this but I'm I could show you studies is absolutely indaal
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intelligence is not an attraction CU it isn't intelligence and that's like pure intelligence right
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book smart intelligent is not an attraction que again women are going to be like no I think nerds are sexy no you
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think sexy nerds with six-pack abs are sexy you don't think nerds are SE or
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with a huge bank account right hug bank account you think they're sexy you don't think nerds nerds in a vacuum are not
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sexy to women they smell funny and have [ __ ] you know like acne and nerds are not sexy to women what's happened though
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is what what women do find in uh attractive is competency which leads to
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the ability to procure resources in the future so instead of saying nerds are sexy women like to date first year uh
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like uh Associates in a law firm or they want to date a first year resident at a hospital because they have their their
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law degree or their doctorate degree what are they doing they see they see the potential for this person to become
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higher status it's funny because there are Associates that work at law firms that will never make as much money as a
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plumber who owns his own Plumbing his own plumbing company the guy who owns his own plumbing company will actually
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make more money but it's a lower status job and you actually there's funny there's a there's a study that was done
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there's certain jobs that are below zero what I mean by that is if you were to ask women what kind of job makes you
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most attractive lawyer is is number one by the way it's it's funny being unemployed puts you at like a three out
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of 10 being a janitor puts you below being unemploy meaning you're actually less attractive to women being a janitor
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being in custodial work you're less attractive to women doing custodial work than you are being unemployed how crazy
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is that that is crazy because women have this this facility to and by the way you know how many there's too many attorneys
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right now so many attorneys I know who are in massive levels of debt and don't make any money but women are throwing
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themselves out of attorneys not understanding that a guy who owns a janitorial service might make $400,000 a year I talked to a lineman the other day
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you know lineman the guys who fix the the power Lin Bank this guy makes
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$700,000 a year as a union lineman it's an athletic job let me say
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one more time he makes $700,000 a year as a lineman in [ __ ]
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in California bro and these women would have no ability to discern that this guy
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this lineman is a far better chance for for provisioning he's a great athlete
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and he makes a lot of money you have to be an athlete to be a lineman yeah um you're you you're going to get better
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genetics and more money but you'd rather be with the attorney or the [ __ ] boy that you met as a bartender so there's
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there's this but it's but what why is that happening it's because of the attraction cues there's a certain status
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that comes with being an attorney that does not come with being a union lineman does that make sense yeah yeah and so
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the status confuses people and so I said before the first one I said was uh
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social status the next one I said was pre-selection or mate Choice copy the next one I said was humor the ability
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Network the next one I I'll tell you this is a really big one it's access to scarce resources and when people hear that they're going to immediately think
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Michael's talking about money I'm not talking about money okay money is a scarce resource that you can use but
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also hey I know this one woman she was she had a a an issue where she was assaulted when
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she was younger by a man a very difficult traumatic experience and from then she every man that she she actually
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dated Rich Piana you know the humongous dude who like abuses steroid she said she said every guy I dated after my
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assault I wanted big humongous men to protect me her a a man's physical
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ability men are about 100% stronger in their upper body and 50% stronger in their lower body than women are a man's
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ability to protect a woman even though from a from a logical standpoint she could just buy a Glock and live in a
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high-rise and she's not going to really have to worry about her protection the reality is there's still evolutionary
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cues where some women are looking for that physicality as a resource men being tall as a resource men being goodlooking
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as resource and money but those are not the ones I want to talk about what I want to talk about is like for me when a girl comes to Las Vegas she goes oh my
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God I love Testo I was like oh that's crazy I'll literally take her to Omnia walk her on stage and introduce her to
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Tiesto she's like her eyes are big and she's blown away so access to scarce
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places and scarce resources are another attraction cue that works very well there's a guy that I I knew who who all
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he did was did the artist wristbands he would put the artist wristbands on the the girls at at uh EXs and this guy
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slept with so many supermodels I I can't even express to you because he gave girls access to the artists to the high
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status area that make sense so access is another attraction cue that works really well um social alignments are another
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one so basically like who do you know for me another big one is whenever I go to a resta I I tend to pick like two or
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three restaurants I go to on a regular basis I'll go to a first date and one of the things I'm counting on is for the chef to literally come out from the back
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and greet me and be like oh my God Mr stin it's so good to see you that does so well on a date I cannot express to
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you when you go to a place and like everyone there knows you the valet know the valet is running up it's like Mr SAR
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that kind of thing it it shows social alignments and social Acuity and it shows um calib social calibration
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another thing is social calibration so basically how do you work a room another massive attraction trigger
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is leader of men so a lot of times um I've done this before I have a friend of mine he's a dating coach and if he
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really likes a girl what'll do is he'll have this like large be honest with it's Owen Cook he's the guy owns RSD so Owen
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will if he likes a girl he'll like literally go and have a speech like a free tour he'll have hundreds of guys
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walk in there and he'll specifically invite the girl he likes to sit in the front row so she can witness hundreds of
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men hanging on his every word so this again this is leader of men this is another attraction trigger these are all
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ones so being able to protect people like I said before access to resources money now let's get to money
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specifically money money is a double-edged sword most people this is going to be hard for a lot of guys to
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understand this when they hear this most of you who have a lot of money let's just say uh Ryan pan he has a saying he goes above $250,000 a year you should be
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hiring people to take stuff off your plate uh uh it's called buyback your time by Dan marel he wrote a great book
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about that okay I'm actually reading that book right now okay so so let's just for for for right now top 10% of
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wage owners in the United States is $134,000 a year so let's say you make more than $134,000 a year that's who I'm
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talking to if you make more than $134,000 a year I can almost promise you to about an 80 to
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90% certainty money is hurting you with women interesting money is hurting you
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with women what it does is men see money as a crutch and they're like how do I make this problem go away and so the
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extreme example is seeking Arrangement uh you know passport Bros going to Colombia to sleep with girls that are
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you know fun girl they're just prostitutes like it's basically sex tourism that's extreme examples of using money in the wrong way and then other
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examples would be like a guy like meets a girl and buys her a necklace on the first or second date so here's the rule
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when it comes to money is up very important that guys understand this buying experiences for a woman is
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totally acceptable hey I just so I have a friend of mine what he does is he gets a villa in Mexico with like six bedrooms
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in it in his Villa he gets a room in Mexico with like six Villa bedrooms in his in his Villa and he tells girls I'm
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not going to pay for you to fly out here but if you fly yourself out here you can stay in the Villa for free so he's B he's paid for an experience I know other
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guys that will take female friends with them to dinner dinner is totally fine those are experiences experiences where
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you guys have fun together taking your female a group of female friends to like [ __ ] um taking them to the movies
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okay you guys all go to the movies together and you you know one of the girls starts having a crush on you she likes you those are fine what you never
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do as a man though in the beginning unless this is a woman who lives with you has your children you're having sex
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with on a regular basis you are not paying for her house you're not paying for her car note you're not paying for
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her tuition you're not paying for shoes you're not paying for bags you're not paying for jewelry uh and you're also
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not paying for clothes you're not paying for any of those things that is stuff you do not do as a man because what
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you're doing is you're using money to buy affection and most of you listening to this have fallen into this trap this
39:43
is where most guys with money most of you have this problem is what you don't understand money is to create a funnel
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to bring beautiful women into your life so money is a double-edged sword but you like I'm actually going to probably come up with a course uh me and a couple of
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friends of mine we're going to come up with a course specifically on men who are high net worth gentlemen how they
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don't get um you know put you know taken advantage of by seexual Predator by by by Financial Predators so that's another
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one but those are those are some of the attraction ones like the those are some of the attraction triggers like we said before a competency social calibration
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high levels of networking access to scarce resources access to scarce locations pre-election humor uh and and
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social status th those are awesome I want I want a couple follow-ups for for for those women so there are tons of men
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that are buying all of those things for girls right like is there this dichotomy between like are they just lower not
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lower class but like for lack of a better term lower class women like that's that that actually use only fans
40:46
to get gifts and all these different things right like they're they're actually no no no wait no no you're you're you're you're extrapolating even
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further than I was I'm just talking like if you listen guys if you go on a date with a woman and on the first date you
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buy a jewel she'll take your jewelry even if she's not a low class woman she's going to take your jewelry guys if
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you off like most girls like let let's just say like you're having a fun time with her you went on two dates you never
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you haven't slept with her you offer to pay her rent most women are going to say yes not most but a lot of women are going to say yes they're not low class
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women they're just your offerings like dude if you came in here right now I'm on a diet you came in here right now and you had a bunch of like pink box donuts
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and you're like hey Michael you want a donnut like I'm on a diet but I'm probably going to eat the D if you offer me the dut I'm going to eat the doughnut
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like that's just it's in front of me it's hard like what people on diets need to stay away from pizza and donut they need don't put them in the room if you
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give women the option to do this they're just going to do this right the the it's not a function of like higher status or
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lower like we haven't even gotten into like who you choose uh let me let me give a real simple solution for this
41:44
Kevin a lot of men will say I don't like women because they're on only fans or post a lot on social media or they'll
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say I don't like a women women because of the body count they had before they got into the relationship I I got one
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simple rule that's going to help all of you guys ready it is the level of stimulus she needs to be happy that's it
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I know women right now who are professional models they don't really like modeling they they have someone who
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posts for them they do not care at all about how many likes they get but they happen to be so physically attracted that this is a great way for them to
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make money they don't need a lot of stimulus but they happen to be models so this might actually be a decent pick for
42:21
someone to be with like this might be a faithful woman but I know some women that are very mid and they like every
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time they get a a famous person like they doctor all their photos to make themselves look way more attractive than they actually are they use face app and
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face tune to do that and then they'll get messages from like tiger or Michael B Jordan or Drake or like some of these
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other famous accounts famous uh uh content creators or famous rappers or whatever and by the way if these laters
42:46
don't know that it's not actually Drake who's messaging you he gives his account to another guy and his job all day is to just like scr up women that's all he
42:53
does same thing with tiger same thing like there's these guys who are like Scoundrels in Los and all they Chris
42:58
Brown's another example he just has someone who just messages girls for him all day on his account and these guys
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that when these guys that do this a lot of women will will go out with these uh we go out with these guys and you'll say
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okay if if you're dating a woman what is the likelihood of her opening a message from some celebrity if it's a high
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likelihood what does that mean she probably needs more stimulus that's a bad that's a bad bet for a long-term
43:26
relationship and that's actually a Bad Bet for paternity certainty so I would not for me the ultimate litmus is how
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much stat how for me the ultimate litmus is how much stimulus does she need a
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woman who needs a lot of stimulus in order to feel happy so it's like she has to be on stage there has to be bottles
43:42
of champagne she has to take Molly every night she's doing a lot of drugs she always needs to be at the coolest parties she goes to IA she knows where
43:49
every single nightclub is every year she's in in Dubai every year she's in San Trope every year she's at Art basil
43:55
every year she's at Burning Man every year she's at Coachella this would be a terrible woman to be in a relationship
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terrible and expensive and expensive yeah that would be a terrible because you're always like you're spending money
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to give her more stimulus which is just feeding her Pro her addiction to stimulus high levels of addiction to
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stimulous and there's also correlations between that narcissism but like that is a bad so it's not because you're never
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GNA really know body count I know a lot of people are like well I can tell by the way she dresses how many people she slept with I'm going to tell you uh
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that's not true like I know a lot of girl I know one girl who dresses incredibly provocatively and she has sex with her husband on her only fans and no
44:31
one else like she so she's been with one guy in 20 years so she's not Las she's not lascivious on online she is but her
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and her husband have a very good relationship and they have three kids together and they're both multi-millionaires because of her only
44:44
fans so this is an example where you're like I can tell by the way she dresses how many bodies she no you can't but
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what you can tell is the likelihood of you being able to make the relationship work based on the amount of stimulus she
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is she re requires in order to feel something another is what type of stimulus so whenever I talk to women who
45:02
have are consistently cheated on by their exes or consistently or in situations where they're being
45:07
psychologically or even physically abused if I see that as a pattern I know that I'm not going to provide that level
45:13
of abuse for her so she's going to lose interest in me in her mind she's like oh I can't believe you Abus me like this this is terrible in my mind I'm like
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you've been with three men who have abused you like this this tells me this is what you need in a relationship in order to feel stimulated in order for
45:26
you to to achieve equilibrium I'm never going to treat you like that I remember it was me living in Vegas there was one
45:32
woman she actually moved to Australia with her male stripper boyfriend and then when she was there uh when she was
45:38
having the baby he was off cheating on her with like a couple of other women and she's telling us this story she moved back to Vegas she's telling us
45:44
this story and I'm just like in my mind like you want us to feel sorry for you because you left here with a male
45:50
stripper to like have a baby with him and you're surprised that he cheated on you and it was the first time when I ever looked at a woman who was that
45:57
physically attractive and thought to myself I'm turned off by her attitude women were consistently Alik allowing
46:02
that behavior it's one of these situations where it's like it's a Bad Bet for you if a woman is consistently choosing men who cheat on her and you're
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a faithful man she's going to lose interest in you this is what I mean before about the type of stimulus a
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woman needs in order to feel some kind of way and then there's other types like for instance I know some women it's like their entire seduction process involves
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drugs and alcohol they cannot have sex without drugs and alcohol being involved it's a common thing in these party towns
46:26
girls who were in college or or you know places like Las Vegas or Los Angeles they could the level of stimulus they
46:32
need is constantly drugs and alcohol that's the way like for instance they had an ex and their ex would go out they'd get drunk together and they would
46:38
do cocaine together and that's what she's used to as far as her seduction process she's going to be like oh I want to stop drinking I want to stop doing
46:45
drugs there's always this voice in her mind that's like this is boring this guy's boring I want to do something else
46:50
so what I would like what I like is there's one girl I'm seeing she lives in North Dakota all she does is she rescues
46:56
animals uh and she watches Netflix and she goes to the gym she requires no stimulus whatsoever she she's a model
47:02
but she doesn't post on her social media ever her she has a team that posts on her social media and she's just she
47:08
require she's like and she'll she'll message me she'll call me FaceTime and she'll be sitting there with a with a puppy and it's like yeah I just want to
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sit here and play with my puppy she requires very little stimulus for her to be happy and so we've been seeing each
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other on and off for like three or four years because of that and that's why that's worked better for me uh my the
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woman I was dating previous was from a southern city uh she had no social media when we met um or very very little
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social media she had like fewer than 50 followers something like that um and she she just required very little stimulus
47:37
the only stimulus she she needed was the stimulus that I provided and the relationship worked very well because of that uh because of that whole thing so
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my number one piece of advice when men are choosing a long-term partner uh is
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like the number one red flag I would look for is does she require great levels of stimulus in order for her to
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feel satisfied she's always looking at the next guy the next car she wants the next piece of jewelry she always want
48:01
the bigger bag she has to stunt on her friends she wants the nicer shoes she has to go to the nicer restaurant she
48:06
needs to take videos of her food every time she goes out if this is a situation that you're dealing with where it's like
48:12
you know she like literally you have a date planned with her on Thursday but she misses the date because she's going to go on stage to ctso that lets you
48:19
know that this woman requires a lot of stimulus you can still date her have a lot of fun with her definitely not a long-term um mer definitely not a
48:26
long-term partner would you I mean would it be fair to say that a high performing man then doesn't like would not normally
48:34
choose or shouldn't choose a broken woman because all those things that you
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you know it's not there's anything wrong with them but they're not they're I mean clearly there is something broken in
48:45
order to require drugs alcohol you know all of those things right so in that case of course you're right of course
48:50
when it we're talking about drugs or alcohol or we're dealing with a woman who has like say suffering from borderline personality disorder or
48:56
something like that of course when you say broken but like do you understand the way dating the way therapy is being
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taught to men right now is that basically men are defective women therapy the vast majority of therapists
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right now are female and they're teaching men to try to be more vulnerable and it's not this is not the appropriate therapy that men need men
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need to accomplish goals that's why there's this thing called behavioral activation therapy as opposed to dialectical behavioral therapy which is
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the treatment for borderline personality order men going out in accomplishing goals tends to get them over it has a
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very very high correlation with getting them over depression going out and shooting baskets or doing stuff with
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your friends playing flag football frisbee golf whatever some kind of outdoor sporting activity getting sunlight getting vitamin D these things
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doing an activity getting a new bench press Max going to the gym these things have been shown with high like I believe
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80% of efficacy in getting people over depression whereas ssris have a 40%
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effectivity uh Effectiveness rate exercise has an 80% Effectiveness rate so men accomplishing goals and going out
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and doing things seems to be the way for them to get over depression um and so that that's the the main thing that we
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have to see as as men and women is that men and women are different and the Therapeutic Community instead of telling
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men hey you have a burden of performance and you need to go out and and perform and accomplish a goal what they're saying is you need to be more vulnerable
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you need to do exactly what men do so now here's here's the rub on the question you just asked when you say
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women who are broken women don't speak men in general heterosexual women don't speak men and heterosexual men don't
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speak women so from that standpoint we're both broken to the opposite gender does that make sense it's like if I'm
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with a group of women I mean obviously I would never say hey woman you know you're broken right yeah but but when we
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talk about broken if we we're dealing with a woman who's psychologically sound but she keeps thinking that her emotions
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matter more than objective reality which is it's a it's a function called standpoint feminism you guys can look it up it's a second W feminist ideal which
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is basically your perspective as a human being as a disenfranchised human being matters more than objective reality and
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only objective the only reality that can be pieced together comes from disenfranchise people but what this does
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though is it makes you completely unaccountable for your actions and so what you'll see and I've seen this before is you'll be dealing with a woman
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who in every other function is normally functioning but she from every other
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psychological uh function she's normally functioning woman and she still believes
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that her emotions her feelings matter more than objective reality the extreme example exle is the woman who has a
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dream about her husband cheating on her wakes up punches her husband she goes oh I just had a dream about you cheating on
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me and he's like I didn't cheat on you and she doesn't apologize and she goes back to bed and thinks she's totally
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she's totally validated for punching her husband for something he didn't do because it feels like he did it that
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type of mentality is something you find far more pervasive in women than men and
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that from a man's standpoint if we if we had a guy friend who was doing that we would think he is broken right so that's
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the that's the problem is like because women don't speak men and men don't speak women at least not very well you
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can't say the word broken but there is legitimate broken like you said before an addiction to drugs you know maybe
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what you know addiction to abuse like you talked about all that stuff right yeah yeah
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addiction to detention addiction to drugs addiction to alcohol addiction to abuse possibly a a previous sex worker
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things like that those are going to be things where I would say not a really good choice for a long-term commitment
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and what you're going to find is when you have a buddy who who we've all had a guy friend who's dating someone we know
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is bad for them what's happened is he feels he's lower status and he's getting
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sexual access consistently maybe for the first time in a validation from a woman maybe for the first time in a long time
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and because of that his standards are so much lower that he's accepting a certain level of abuse uh what happens is higher
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status men who know every day they could get multiple dates with multiple women by the way this includes married men
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they know that if if things went wrong they could easily find another woman those men are going to tolerate less of
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that behavior here's the irony here's the rub here's the part people understand Kevin these higher status men
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because they will tolerate less of this Behavior are actually more attractive to women and have more successful relationships because they set those
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boundaries because they set those boundaries here's the ultimate dichotomy for men out here who are having trouble
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understanding how women work if you if Kevin let's just imagine you and I are
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running a company together and we have a closer we have a sales closer and this guy is doing three times better than any
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of our other closers every kpi we can put every quota we can put in front of this guy he crushes it what are we GNA
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do as managers of this closer are we gon to punish him or are we going to reward
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him definitely reward him yeah we're going to reward him and and there's no even consideration he did more for us so
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because we're men and we believe in a meritocracy we're going to reward him with more responsibility and more money
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correct you understand concept correct yeah 100% if you are a man in a relationship with a woman and you
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consider what she's what she uh says and believes is like the ultimate word look you go to therapy the therapist tells
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you you need to listen to your woman more and do what she says you do everything she says you and I know very
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well that any man who does everything his woman says what is the what is the
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result of that I mean he's weak and she's gonna leave at some point so again remember in my job if I do everything
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that my employer says and I perform at quately I am rewarded this is what the this is the Paradigm that most men are
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used to in my relationship if I do everything that my woman says and I follow the very bad dating advice from
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like the American Psychological Association which doesn't treat men and women to be different and tries to separate biology from psychology if I
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you if I take the bad advice and listen to exactly what my woman says she will punish me for doing everything that she
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says this is the Paradigm that the doctor the accountant the lawyer the highly technical highly logical man does
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not understand this Paradigm when it comes to women often as a high status man you're going to disappoint women
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you're gonna have like be a situation where you have to do something to make money today so you have to take on a lot
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of uh responsibility you have to do a bunch of um meetings whatever and you
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got it you're doing 75 hards so you're trying to get in really good shape so you're doing two workouts a day and in
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her mind she's like I need more time for me you need to you need to stop going to this meeting and you need to stop going
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to the gym and will you go to your therapist and your therapist is like you need to listen to what your wife says more so what do you do you start
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relaxing at work you start relaxing in the gym and you forget about this whole idea that because you decided to take it
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easy doesn't mean other men will and those other men will take your woman and your job we as men always have a burden
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to Performance you need to always understand that no one's coming to save you none of you gentlemen are good maybe
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some of you are but most of you are not good-looking enough to where some woman's going to come save you so you consistently have to work and this is
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very confusing for a lot of men because they're like if I do what my employer says and by the way this is a bad
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Paradigm your wife is not your employer but if you if you if I do what my employer says I'm rewarded with more
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responsibility more Authority and more money if I do what my wife says in every
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single instance then I'm punished by her because I come off to her as weak and boring and that it's very difficult for
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men to understand this dichotomy it's very difficult guys I'm I'm GNA I'm going to give you a piece of advice if you have children you should take care
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of your children but not because your wife wants you to but because it objectively is the right thing to do if
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you if you have a wife and you don't want you want to stay faithful to her
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not cheat take your you and your kids to children on a regular basis just be a upstanding citizen on the on planet
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Earth you should not do so because your wife wants you to you should do so because objectively it's the right thing
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to do you as a man should understand objectively these are the right things to do I'm not saying don't ever do what
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your wife wants but just understand that for most heterosexual relationships and I'm talking about the high mid to high
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80 percentile a man is going to lead at least 1% more it's at least it's 5149
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and in doing so if you do because again if a woman did everything that I wanted you know what I would do I would marry
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her I'm G say that again if a woman did everything I wanted if a woman did
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everything I wanted I would marry her I would have children with her and I we
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wouldn't need a prenup I'd leave everything to her if a woman did everything I wanted as a woman if I do
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everything a woman wants she will leave me that's the diff that is the difference you need to understand as a
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man there's going to be people telling you that what I just told you was toxic and then you go find any anecdotal
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experience from any of your friends especially those have been divorced and they will all tell you that what I'm saying is
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unequivocally accurate 100% And even even to your point where you're talking about as a dad one of the challenges I
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think most dads have because we deal with a lot of dads and married people and all that stuff is is their wife
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leaves them a list as if they're a 14-year-old babysitter yes throw that list away and take care of your children
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in the way that you want to take care of them I mean basically as a dad the way I see it is my wife goes somewhere as long
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as the kids are still alive when she gets back and they're happy I've and maybe they're not happy I've pretty much
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done my job right like I don't you know because I think so many women use mother motherhood and fatherhood as a weapon
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against against men right yeah by the way no one is doing like your
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heterosexual attraction to an attractive woman is not your
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fault you didn't do anything to make that happen it's a function of genetics and a woman being
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hypergamous or in [ __ ] testing men is not her fault either it's just a function of evolution she's trying to
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she's consistently what she doesn't need is a man to do everything She Wants what she needs is a man to consistently show her
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that that she made the right choice I had a baby with an alpha male she needs to know that and she's going to want to
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try to see that every day when you sit when she tests you if you get hyperreactive to it you start
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yelling back at her now what's happened is this a really really messed up situation so you have a woman who
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consistently tries to pick fights with you and she's doing so because she needs a certain level of validation if you
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engage with her in those fights what are you training her to do you're training yourself and you're training her that in
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order for her to get the attention she's looking for she has to start a fight with me yeah and the reality situation is when she's when you can tell that she
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is deliberately trying to start some conflict with you for no reason for you to be non-reactive is the actual answer
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and it's hard for guys to understand that concept you should actually not be rewarding a woman who's trying to start
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trifling arguments with with you with attention you should be rewarding the woman who brought peace into your life
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with attention it's hard for us as men to do that because we're not used to that we're not used to being treated that way um and so that's something you
1:00:01
have to understand as a man and it's very difficult because you understand when you especially the really wealthy
1:00:06
successful guys that come into the program they understood they use logic and reason and accountability in order
1:00:12
to build a business that made them six seven or eight figures they understood
1:00:17
that I use logic reason and accountability and I rewarded People based on a meritocracy and in doing so I
1:00:23
made more money and I enjoy my business because I get to do what I love for a living regardless of what it is because
1:00:28
I use logic reason and accountability then they take that same Paradigm of logic reason and accountability into the
1:00:34
relationship and they don't understand why it doesn't work because they because because it's an evolutionary mismatch
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yeah it really is an evolutionary mismatch um and that's what that's what happened I'm not telling you guys that your wife's opinion doesn't matter of
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course it matters she has a ton of information she might know you better than you know yourself but one of the
1:00:51
issues is you need to take right action because it's right action and not you're being demanded to do so by the like you
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said before by the list that your wife gave you where she's trying to be the leader in the home for some women and this is happening more and more today
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than at any time in history they're being taught in through adolescence through high school and in college that
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men are basically Homer Simpson they're not Dependable they're doofuses you you
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shouldn't listen to them that men men don't know what they're talking about you can't depend on them and the only
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true north the only true wisdom that exists is female intuition women are
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being taught this consistently if you've ever been around a fe a female who doesn't respect her boyfriend doesn't
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respect her dad you're going to find out she doesn't respect any of the male figures in her life because somewhere
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along the line either a female figurehead or the mother or whatever maybe Mom was divorced and and told her
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that all men were [ __ ] something to that extent she's never learned how to respect a man and she's been taught her
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whole life that men are the problem and that men should not be counted on men
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are not dependable and the only thing that you can count on truly is female
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intuition and your internal feelings and of course we know as men that if the world were just ba run on female
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intuition and feelings we would never construct a building we would never get to work on time the trains would not
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work on time we would have no infrastructure as far as like uh water or electricity those things would not
1:02:20
happen we'd not be able to execute military campaigns we would have no internet because those things order to
1:02:26
make internet work or in order to build the infrastructure of a city you need to understand and manipulate objective
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reality objective reality and the only true north that we understand as men is
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objective reality and so for women when they're taught well men believe in objective reality and they cannot be
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counted on because they're they're not Dependable then the only true north for them is their feelings and then that's
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when we get into this conflict men do not speak women and women do not speak men
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did I lose you
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Kevin
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85% are you still there sure
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am uh lost your audio hold on no
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audio check check check I can still see that my audio is working there we go now your audio is back you got me yeah all
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of a sudden my internet just said okay I'm done are you in Los Angeles uh no I'm actually in Montana so we run out
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you know we have like little mouse and hamsters spin on a wheel to make her that's funny I bet your internet's better than it is in La that's the worst
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internet I've ever seen in my life but now you're in Texas no I'm in Vegas you're in Vegas okay yeah um yeah sorry
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about that so no no problem let me we're we're recording again so it should be cool um you were talking about the
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objective reality we don't we can't get internet built we can't get water done um that kind of where you were where you
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were going on because women um basically can't do an objective they don't look at
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objective reality it's not that all women don't look at objective reality I had two Squadron commanders uh when I
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was in the Air Force and they both looked at objective reality what I'm saying is often there are men that there
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are women out there that for whatever reason in their upbringing they were taught that men are not dependable and
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male intuition is not dependable and therefore because men sort of worship objective reality through whe whether
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natural selection or or Newtonian physics or or engineering or or economics or whatever that because men
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are not Dependable therefore objective reality is not dependable and the only thing that you can count on is the feelings that you have inside and while
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that may make you feel better in the short run it also does not feed the child it doesn't make you money it does not it does not keep you healthy
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objective reality are is the things that cause you to be able to raise a child and live a long life and so I think
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that's where we're we're it as we get further and further away from a surv scenario you mean you can see this on
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the internet more and more delusional people feel comfortable spreading their more and more delusional beliefs I had a
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woman come on my Show recently who was basically saying women can wait till they're 50 to have children she was
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actually saying this on the show and I was like it was very clear she needed to feel that inside because she was you
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know in her 30s late 30s and hadn't had a kid and in her mind she's like it made her feel better to say that out loud but
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objective reality is of course at 50 you have a far less than 1% chance of being
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able to conceive a child and she was she was just basically telling me that I was wrong and she was also telling me that
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natural selection and evolution wasn't real this video went viral incredibly viral very few likes a ton of comments
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um because because of what was going on there so this is just a situation where in her mind somewhere down the line she
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was taught that objective reality that she was learning in college that cannot be dependent on and her feelings are the only thing that can be dependent on and
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so that's why she's gone into that situation and she happens to be physically attractive enough to where she can get away with it she lives in a
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world where she doesn't have to live she doesn't have to live in objective reality this woman doesn't have an only fans but let's just say a woman did
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believe that the Earth was flat that natural selection wasn't real but she had an only fans it doesn't hurt her from a survival standpoint it makes no
1:08:07
difference in her ability to survive because she doesn't believe that the Earth is round yeah so from that standpoint now we can propagate these
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nonsensical ideas more and more by the way men are men are guilty of this too they're just not as guilty in general at
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the highest rungs of society men do believe in objective reality which I've seen often you you'll see i' see The
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View sit there and argue about uh how men are intimidated by women who have a career and a job and it's like it's
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absurd that's objectively not true men are not intimidated by women who make more money they're just they they're
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choosing women who don't who have more time for them if I have a choice between a woman who makes a lot of money but
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she's an attorney and works 80 hours a week and then I have another woman here who's younger and has more time for me I
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want sex I want to have I'm gonna have more sex with a younger woman who doesn't have a career it's not a function of intimidation intimidation is
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a cope word that women use for why they are not getting getting chosen when they're 35 years old in in the middle of
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their career and it's like that they're not using objective reality objectively I'm not intimidated objectively I'm
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making a preferential choice just like women can pref have preference for taller men versus shorter men I can have
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a preference for a woman who has more time for me yeah because I mean that's that's the argument with causation
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versus correlation right like there are certain probably personality traits and all that too I want I want to ask first
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of all do you think it's just getting wor it seems like you got serious job security with this
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because it seems like it's just getting worse um one of the things I really have a heart for are younger men um to kind
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of like all right so how do we help you get out of this BS ideology that we're
1:09:38
facing right now where gender and all the craziness that we have um like where
1:09:44
are we going from here like what are these young men and part of it I was going to ask you about physicality right like when you and I you and I are
1:09:50
probably similar ages but when I was in high school right you you had like everybody worked out like we all wanted
1:09:56
to be everybody worked out everyone played football even if you had no business playing football everyone played basketball yeah all that's gone
1:10:02
we wanted to right like we wanted to be physically fit and now it's like some of these kids are like you know you had
1:10:09
that one super skinny bean Poole kid right now it's all of them so like how
1:10:14
do those get where are where do we how do we help those kids um a part of it I
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mean there's so many things that are going on here part of it is what they're taught part of it is also what they eat and what they're exposed to as far as Plastics as far as fragrances are
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concerned it has to do with the water supply um the higher levels of estrogen in the water supply uh which is causing
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and by the way estrogen is a molecule it's not a bacteria or a virus so you can't boil it out it's much harder to
1:10:37
get it out of the water supply great book on this called estrogeneration and so because of that what we're seeing is the feminization of males so men are
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getting more exposure to exogenous testosterone and they're also like have less exposure to uh exogenous more
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exposure to exogenous estrogen and then less exposure to testosterone less
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necessity to make testosterone and so what we're seeing is the lowest testosterone levels in in a long time
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and when men get on trt we're starting seeing them you'll start to see them like they come back to life they start
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they there I was just reading a study yesterday this is absolutely true you guys can look this up men with higher
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grip strength and higher upper body muscle strength are more likely to be against wealth
1:11:19
redistribution stronger men are more likely to vote Republicans look it up tell me I'm wrong tell me I'm just made
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the whole [ __ ] thing up look it up for yourself ask chat gbt ask whoever you want this is absolutely true well
1:11:30
anecdotally I will tell you that in my wife's phone my name is Gorilla because I'm one of those guys I'm a mechanic I
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build stuff I break stuff with my hands unintentionally all the time yes and so
1:11:42
like and I happen to be a Republican and I own multiple guns that's a but it's like it's it's so
1:11:48
crazy when you read this stuff so these men are taking trt I what I expect to happen this is the next thing I I would
1:11:53
look for men to kind of kind of a warning sign something to look out for in the future some of you guys are take are getting peptides right now some of
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you are on exogenous testosterone taking trt you need to make sure you I would have multiple clinics on on the phone uh
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you're going to start to see a lot of these clinics getting shut down as more men who are politically conservative
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physically fit into their late 40s and 50s are taking trt you're going to see uh liberals start to identify that
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testosterone is part of their problem it's causing men who are to be more fit later on in life
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like again I don't think you or I would be like I'm a content creator in part I'm 47 years old I turned 47 last Saturday I'm 47 years old and I am in
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better shaped than I've ever been in my entire life and repeatedly not of my own valtion I'm getting selected for by
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20-year-old women women in their 20s want to date me because I stayed in shape I don't know that this would
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necessarily be possible uh you know without exogenous testosterone and so
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because of that what what you're going to see is I I heal quicker I take bpc s it's a peptide I heal quicker I take
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other other peptides that help me with my skin and my my the my uh resting metabolic rate and all these other kind
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of things help me heal from injuries help me sleep better I'm taking these things and I'm living like I did when I was 19 years old that's very dangerous
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now because I'm not 19 anymore I have the experience and the money of a guy who's 47 and so now I'm a problem for
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the opposite side you see what I'm saying I would expect in the next few years you're going to see a push by the
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uh FDA to try to make exogenous testosterone more controlled and some of these peptides totally illegal I would I
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would look for to see that your other question uh you're talking about job security I didn't realize when I first
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started this program I started it because I saw things leaning in a certain direction I didn't realize what
1:13:42
a forerunner this program would be meaning this program was so far ahead of its time that when I started the program
1:13:47
I would say things like you need social media to help you with your dating life and now it's like you don't have any
1:13:53
dating like because you don't have social media things have gotten so extreme in the last five years uh it's
1:13:58
tilted in that direction I don't I'm I'm hosting next week I'm hosting a bikini
1:14:03
competition in Mexico it's a it's a it's a worldclass bikini pageant these girls are coming from all there's 60 women
1:14:08
competing it's like a ton of cash and prizes very high class thing that that's going on here uh you know we're all in
1:14:14
Suits and Gowns and I have to ask them questions swimsuit USA used to be part of of the Miss Universe P um and I'm
1:14:22
going to be there with 60 women and a lot of time like I I met my girlfriend my previous girlfriend like three years
1:14:27
ago there the the thing is when I look at my life and how much work I've put in to creating this funnel to bring
1:14:33
beautiful women in my life and then I go back home to high I go back home to Texas and I go to see my friends I went to high school with and I see how
1:14:40
incredibly difficult it is for them to even get one girl to show up on a date from a dating app I'm like dude how are
1:14:46
you living like this like I can't imagine living like dating apps and Singles bars like this is not 1994 this
1:14:53
doesn't work anymore and I just like for me when I built the program I built it with like this is sort of an ancillary
1:15:00
thing that might help you with your dating and professional life and now we've got to the point where you don't have a business if you're not on social
1:15:06
media and you have no dating life if you're not on social media and it's completely flipped well it's basically you're creating a brand right it's a
1:15:12
person you you talked about brand in in specifically with business but it's you really we all have a personal brand yeah
1:15:19
and you're you're you're helping those those guys do that if I just take a couple more minutes of your time I'm I'm
1:15:25
interested in particular so I've been married 29 years my wife is a smoke show
1:15:30
she was literally we modeled together that's where we met wow I was the I was the only heterosexual guy there so odds
1:15:38
were a little bit better but she's she's I will be 52 in December she's 51 um
1:15:45
still absolutely beautiful we work out every day together she's strong fit and all that stuff yeah so I'm a happily
1:15:52
married guy right like and I mean exceedingly happy yeah to the point where that's what that's a lot of what I
1:15:57
try to teach is like I want your marriage to look like mine when you've been married for almost 30 years yes a
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lot of what we're talking about is kind of this like top of funnel if you want to use a marketing term right like but
1:16:11
how does it how does it how does it equate to like a guy like myself right like obviously I'm not out trying to
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meet other women you know my wife finds me attractive and you know it's so funny because my wife will say stuff like you
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know you know cuz I you know all of us kind of go up and down with our fitness levels and cutting and leanness and all
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that she goes well I love you in all your ways well as it turns out I do get a little bit more attention when I'm
1:16:35
seven or eight% body fat than when I'm 12% body fat isn't that weird is that weird in sicker in sickness and in
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health through richer or poorer yeah that's they that's what it said at your wedding right yeah that's right it is it
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really funny uh Rolo talks about this my buddy R he goes he goes He he'll do an episode of access Vegas so it's like me
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and Rolo and like eight girls on the show he goes he comes home to his wife and she just jumps all over because she's seeing this this 55y old man
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because the women women like Rolo I know a lot of people are going to be pissed when I say this we do we do the show and
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afterwards girls are always flirting with r Rolo is like he's he looks like a rock and roll he's a drummer in a rock
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and roll band like that's who he is as a like deep down that's who he is as a human and and so like I see these super
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hot girls they follow roll around and his wife sees this too and she's super attracted to him because of it what I
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was going to say uh in your in your whole situation uh for married men what you're saying is the right act is the right idea you need to stay active even
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as a married man and whether or not this is something that you're I'm sure this is not something you're consciously doing your wife also knows you're
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attractive to other women which is part of the reason why she finds you more attractive that's what the cue of seven or eight% body fat is I have a like
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think about what that means from a genetic standpoint a 51y old man with 7% body fat means exceptionally good
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genetics even if if you're on [ __ ] anavar tremone and and whatever I am on trt but not enough not enough to make
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that easy I'll tell you right now but my my point is her you and I both know we
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know women who have dated men who make money illegally and they still take the money right think of like uh The
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Sopranos right yeah right Eddie Falon and The Sopranos and we also know women who dated men who took steroids and the
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guys had big muscles and the girls never said well he's got big muscles and I'm super attracted to him but I'm not going
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to date him cuz he took steroids I've never heard a woman say that not one time they might date him cuz his balls are the size of a you know Peanut he's
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not he's not getting me pregnant right there's no way that's happening um but my point my the point I'm trying to make is I rarely see women look at how a guy
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became attractive and then just be like well because of my uh like I see women date you and I both know guys girls who
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dated drug dealers and guys who took steroids and from a from all intents and purposes they're cheating but women will
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still date them and we will date women who have breast implants and I know I've seen women who have
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lipos suction and men will date them and so we know it's cheating but that's our subconscious can't tell that it's
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cheating and so we still find those people attractive remember what I said before about attraction triggers like yeah I'm a good guy Michael I have I go
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to church and I have two master's degrees and I take care of my niece and I'm really smart and I work hard I
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deserve a good woman I like no you don't deserve [ __ ] and you don't understand attraction triggers which is the reason why women are going to keep using you as
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a financial Target and women are going to keep putting you in the friend zone because you don't understand that concept
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yeah man this has been super interesting like I I you know it's just um it's not a world that I live in right like I
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haven't I haven't dated since I dated my wife in 1993 yeah right like so that's a long
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time bro it's It's Hard Out In These Streets bro I'm trying to tell you if you you should try it like the two of you uh you should just make not even
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your face but like have do this experiment this would be great content for you take uh the face and and uh
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personality of a madeup male a guy and make him average looking and then have your wife operate his dating profile on
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Tinder bubloon hinge and have her see how insanely hard it is for this average
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looking guy to get a date and then have her give you her reaction and film it be
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incredible content that'd be incredible content look there's so many videos of women who like have done this experiment
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where they try to use an average looking man and get dates and they're like I did not know women were this mean I had you
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like women like they they're like crying they're like I had no idea because the women are seeing the rejection is coming
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on them personally even though you know they're using a man's profile But like after a while it starts to hurt them I've seen multiple women they start
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crying when they see how mean women are to Men on these dating that's insane I
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mean it's funny because my wife actually does get hit on and people flirt with her and all that I'm either completely
1:20:48
unaware of it or it just doesn't happen to me and maybe that means I'm I'm too average looking no there's actually
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there's some studies there's there's some studies that show this wh people who are consistently uh accusing their
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partner of cheating generally are doing so because they're having thoughts of other PE people themselves and people
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who are not uh consistently um accusing their partner of cheating the reason why is
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because they're because because I'm faithful I assume that you're faithful my ex like she was always confused like
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I was never jealous like I never didn't care she would work out at a gym with a bunch of male influencers it never bothered me I just was like no I don't
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care and by the way if you ever cheated on me just make sure he's hot don't embarrass me you know what I'm saying I'm but I I would find because I knew I
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would find another girl yeah you don't want that he she cheated on him with that dude that yeah no because because I
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know like I can I can find someone else very quickly and I'm also very happy with my life right now I'm single I'm
1:21:39
very happy with my life being single as well so it's like one of these situations where like jealousy man it's so counterproductive doesn't help me
1:21:44
with my doesn't help me accomplish my daily goals so I don't I don't I I you know it's just not helpful for me maybe
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it's just some proclivity that I have because I'm trusting of other people maybe because my parents were together
1:21:55
for 44 years I'm trusting of other people therefore I'm trusting of whoever my partner is oh I totally I 100% trust
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my wife by the way it's not I don't trust other men and I think she does she trusts me too much you know and by the
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way it's not other men's responsibility to not hit on your girl it's your girl's responsibility to protect her boobs her butt and her and her and her vagina and
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her mouth from other men touching them yeah that I'm just going to be blunt I I have to be blunt like that ladies if you
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don't understand for you cheating is the lying for us is when the cheating is when other men touch your vag vagina
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your butt your boobs or your face that is cheating to us cheating to us is penetration cheating for you is lying
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it's different interesting yeah yep dude this has been great I really appreciate your perspective uh we didn't even get I
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had a couple of notes here but we didn't even get to look we we we can do another one of these but I do have to run I got to get to the airport I'd love that so
1:22:44
enjoy your trip thank you very much for coming and uh Hey how do we find more information just men in action.com is
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can write me on there another way to do it would be go to school.com it's that new uh app that
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it comes to communication networking leadership and dating dude you're a rockstar Michael thank you so much enjoy
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your uh hope the flights go well and enjoy your trip all right talk to you soon carein all right bye-bye if you're looking to really maximize your life and
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