Episode 84 - Unlocking Men’s Health: Data-Driven Solutions for Sexual Wellness - Dr. Elliot Justin

Summary:

In this episode of the Maxed Out Man podcast, host Kevin Davis sits down with Dr. Elliot Justin, CEO and founder of Firm Tech, the first sex-tech company focused on men’s erectile fitness. Dr. Justin, an emergency medicine physician and serial entrepreneur, shares insights into the often overlooked and stigmatized world of men’s sexual health. The conversation covers everything from the inefficiencies of modern healthcare in addressing sexual health, to the groundbreaking technology behind Firm Tech’s innovative products. Dr. Justin emphasizes the importance of data-driven solutions for tracking sexual performance and how men can take control of their sexual health to improve both physical and emotional well-being. The episode is packed with humor, real-life experiences, and valuable advice on how men can start addressing sexual health issues long before they become major problems.

Key Takeaways:

1. Erectile Fitness Matters: Men’s sexual health should be treated proactively, much like cardiovascular or physical fitness, using objective data to track performance.
2. Empowerment Through Technology: Firm Tech's products provide men with the ability to assess their sexual health using at-home devices that gather data on nocturnal erections and sexual performance.
3. Breaking the Stigma: Talking openly about sexual health and performance can lead to better outcomes and reduce the stigma around seeking help for issues like erectile dysfunction.
4. Health is Holistic: Sexual fitness is not only about performance but also contributes to overall health, including cardiovascular wellness and emotional intimacy.
5. It’s Never Too Late: Regardless of age or fitness level, men can improve their sexual health by making small lifestyle changes, using the right tools, and tracking progress.

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Transcript

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want to see you you want us to be able to see a problem before it turn the problem down there
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yeah welcome to maxed out man helping you become the man you were made to
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be hey guys this Kevin divis from the maxed out man podcast I'm here with Dr Elliot Justin uh Elliot Justin MD F A CE
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P that's a lot of letter uh is the CEO there's some more and founder of firm
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Tech the first sex tech company dedicated to improving men's erectile Fitness that's a term I've not heard
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before so I'm excited about that nice hope you trademarked it I uh we trade Bo rectile score we'll get
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into that all right we'll get that uh he has a background in emergency medicine and Healthcare technology Consulting Dr
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Justin's also a Serial healthc care entrepreneur having founded and sold Pegasus emergency group and Swift MD
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he's happily married for 35 years we were just talking about that and father of three children Elliot and an live in
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Montana which is where we are with three energetic Mars and a flock of chickens he's also passionate about Trail writing
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who sometimes imagined to his wife s grin that he is a centaur considering we're talking about penises I'm not sure
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what that plays with the horse and that all that so we you know I don't I don't know what that's all about but if you're
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watching this on video we are in studio um so Dr Justin came over we were we
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were actually starting to shoot yesterday and you're like hey I'm in Montana so it's super bright so I shut these I'm like I'm in Montana 2 where
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you at and as it turns out he's what 30 miles 25 miles away from me so I appreciate you making the drive out here
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uh we got a little temporary Studio going and uh yeah you know it'll be interesting to see how many times we can
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say the word [ __ ] and penis uh until I have to mark this as explicit on
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Apple and Spotify so but yeah thanks for coming man good to be here uh and the I
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wouldn't have been here without the illusion of being a sentor nice I can tell that story in just a
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moment yeah go ahead so like the big thing that we always that you know I'm interested because I'm an entrepreneur 2
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um not Healthcare but I'm interested in like the backstory of how you kind of got here and and why you made the choice
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to go into something that's technology here because obviously you've been in multiple businesses that you bought
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grown and sold and uh so tell me that story yeah well uh my wife feels that I'm uniquely
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qualified toing doing right now because I'm I'm the only doctor she's known whose mother took him to urologist twice
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when he's a teenager could too concerned about his masturbation habit uh she felt that it you I wouldn't get into college
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basically uh and then the first time I went the urologist cautioned me he go he want to
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know when when well when did you stop and I said well when there blood uh he
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wanted him about my grades too and I was I was a really good student so uh they couldn't get me on that you know on that angle the second time I went which is
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like late in my junior year year the the urologist gave me better VI advice which was you'll be free of your mother in one
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year just in one year and out the other he told us something else anyway um
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years uh years went by and I and I successful carean emergency medicine I think I probably took care of 175,000
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people I was here in Boseman we found a company called Pegasus emergency group we in 11 states and we employed hundreds
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and hundreds of doctors practitioners and when I exited that company in 2015 I was very interested in uh uh
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technology remot patient management technology I previously found a company called Swift andd that's been sold uh
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and second old tell us and M company after tell do which is still around uh and what I really want to do in that
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sector though was to empower people with knowledge that Physicians would have and deliver if they weren't motivated by
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secondary gain by that I mean money right uh so you get the in this country and most countries so to provide the
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care that if money wasn't the main motivator and insurance wasn't the main demotivator or driver then they would
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make they would have a different standard yeah manage care and Medicare essentially don't care I mean they don't care whether I I employ a physician with
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10,000 lawsuits or no lawsuits where I employ someone just off the boat from the Congo I think Congo yeah the boat
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versus someone who has you know 20 years of experience in perfect malpractice record they they don't care about anything they pay the same amount of money the same unit of care regardless
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to the quality of the service regardless to the outcome and that's really screwed up so uh in this country I as I my
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emergency medicine career progressed I became aware that about 85% of the
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problems that we saw in the emergency department are not really emergencies they're things that people with computers and with this smart device
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that we all that we all we all carry which is smarter than every doctor 99.9% of doctor in the world that with these
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things people could solve the common problems without even going to a doctor so I'm talking about ankle spray neotract infection low back pain uh L
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restory infection yeast infection women these people go do Go theery part
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because because they they want they're one children's going to pay for it and two they're they're you we're Americans we're impatient and our family doctors
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have to make an appointment and then then you get sucked into multiple appointments my do my daughter's a paramedic in Atlanta they call those
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frequent flyers yeah well yes Welles dominate the system because yeah I me
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years ago when I I was running two County paramedic system uh and Trent new
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and part of us involved Trent New Jersey we had um three to seven ambulance runs
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per night involving women with low abdominal pain most of whom were simply seeking a pregnancy test they could
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trust they get the dip urine test but didn't trust the blood test that come off blood test it was and and paramics
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were not allowed to triage patient at the scene at the home and leave there and we can't that emergency either we
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can't send people home uh I me digress moment so many things start with good
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intentions and when you have an alliance of Good Intentions and money makers and then lawyers get involved you just can't
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change system yeah at all uh and that's the tragedy the Healthcare System you know that that we have today uh so if
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people could take care of themselves at home for these common problems with computers you know hey I I spray my ankle uh do I need an x-ray um I low
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grade temp it's burning urinate you know Etc and we allowed them to get x-rays
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antibiotics um blood tests for these these simple problems which there are in really good algorithms small than any
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doctors uh and less expensive then that that would totally revolutionize healthcare because we free up doctors to
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take care of the really sick people and doctors often complain that GE I don't get take care of these sick sick people
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but they make the money on I me the number one reason why Orthopedic problem why people go emergency problem is ankle spr really and so and and we should be
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talking about sex I talk about ankle Springs we talk about sex so here's the one problem that that that can
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Orthopedic injury that can affect most more a little bit more men you know than than women well
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if I you if you call me up on the phone uh and said uh I think I pr my ankle what should I do what do people most
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want from doctors they want advice what what did man what did the insurance companies and the government pay for
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advice nothing so you don't get advice so um could so if you told me your ankle
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sprain well now where's my where's my incentive and by the way of course I don't want to miss out of try the
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fracture but you don't have one I know that so in reality I I actually did this in the Today Show years ago I mean I was
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about this you know what if you can do this MH or you can take three steps into your hobbling and you're not tender over
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the in over the fifth met tossle you don't need an x-ray probably never need an x-ray but certainly you can wait a
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few days put an ice back on and take some ipren yeah doesn't do much it either but the
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um and there's number one problem that orthop problem see in the mer Department the other the other number one problem
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is is a sore throat in emergency department well when do you need antibiotic well there's a there's a triage there's a a Triad rather excuse
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me if you have fever exit in your tonsils which someone else can see it's hard to see yourself uh and and swollen
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gland you have an 85% chance of having stru throat and therefore you probably taking that b if you have two out of three it's like 20% one out of three
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it's like down like 1% so if we Empower people with this knowledge they wouldn't have to go to the ER they just oh you
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know but now we're F and access to antibiotics yeah essentially that you
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pharmacists could write you say hey here's mine just call it in you you know you have you have your algorithm anyway I present to this type of program uh in
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uh made the point of of um presenting to to committees at three state legislators
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um and they got nowhere because no one wanted no want my my point was uh well
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let's take a thousand Medicaid people and th comp with thousands of people with with conventional insurance and
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let's measure um morbidity outcomes at at 90 days 180 days in a year and I'm
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certain that the people who take care of themselves probably that' be less expensive a lot less expensive oh yeah
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and and there be no diff difference in outcomes but pharmaceutical Lobby that's all I have to say right well but it's Al
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it's it's just it's also the hosp it's also the you know price prices in in medicine United States are set by super
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committee that meets every four times a year most people don't know this uh and all the
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um um stakeholders that's the word are at the committee uh the hospital
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Association the nurse Association the AMA is there prob way AMA doesn't represent doctors either I haven't B for
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years uh and Farmers there um various government agencies are there one group
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is not there is you and me there's no one representing the people and we should be we should dominate the committee the committee should be
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dominated by in by by people who practicly we vote for you represent represent right but that's you know
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we're just dreaming and when it comes to uh I'll swing this back to sex
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because that's my area now when it comes to sex it's it's much the same thing well we don't
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have we have the ability right now to deliver datadriven care that's what fch
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is really about uh and as well as enhancing pleasure but I got into this with a data to deliver data driven care
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for men and soon for women and it's a I can tell you it's a struggle to get this
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accepted it it'll be two or three years two or three years before we even can get insurance code you know to cover
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this so right now when it comes to sex I'll look like you and I we and I have
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different age I'm 71 how old are you 51 you're 51 you're a young guy so and you look really fit don't look as fit as I'm
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fit uh the if we both went to our a
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doctor uh you know uh and said you know when I uh when I work out my pulse races
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and I feel fainted and and even when I'm at rest right now my pulse really feels like
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pounding and the doctor just put his hands on a pulse said yeah you're right uh your pulse is really you know I just
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had to I just had you had had your jog around the office your pulse is really fast and God it's really strong I think that you have a heart heart arhythmia
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and high blood pressure he take these two pills and come back in three months we would think you know what the [ __ ] is
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this 1900 this is was some episode of Yellowstone from like 1883 I I we would
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expect an electro cardiogram I have a you have blood pressure cuff in the office your doctor take my blood pressure um blood tests
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um monitoring tests you know Etc and when it comes to Urology that's what
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they they just they they're giving out pills uh on the basis of speculation and
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bmer Reporting uh and they are and and you know
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maybe maybe here in Boseman and most plac this country our family doctum would send it off send us off to
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urologist and the urologists would ask us no questions about our sexual health
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there's no so what is the primary because they make money on a doler go ahead what do urologists
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primarily do right like you know if you say ear nose and throat I've got a pretty good
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idea of what they do when you say urologist in my mind I know think I know what they do but you're you know they
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basically mind doing surgery okay so uh um and you know prostate cancer is is a problem but it's a tiny problem comp
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pass the number of men who have direct function so I'm again these are um
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guesses in my head of my head but I'm guessing there are probably 150 to 20,000 prostate cancer
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surgeries that done every in the United States and then there's probably similar number of trans of um trans re rals that
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are done because men have B prostatic on Pur they're don't cancer they have a LOD no PR right that's one b b you got right
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uh and and but 50% of men over the age of 50 have
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ed meaning they report more four uh four more episodes I for the time FR it's
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last like last 90 days 60 days for you know of of rectal dysfunction well it's a it's a huge problem now I'm
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guessing that and I'd say I I throw this out to anyone on on on the show here does your doctor ever ask you about your
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sexual health does your doctor ever ask you about your marriage or or ma a major partnership in your life could with
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straight straight or gay no did they ever warn you about social side effective medication he you take this blood pressure pill might F your dick or
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I'm going to treat your your your BPH mentioned before but I got this flow medicine it's could probably affect your sexual performance no sex which is so
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important to everyone it's is is like the least important body part so several things in electronic health record with
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two big ones being epic and all scrips I would GA guess that 95% of people listen
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to your show their doctors using one of these two systems there no questions about sexual health so if you went if you or I went to that doctor and said I
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got chest pain they got a whole list of questions that that the computer telling them hey [ __ ] ask answer you you need
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to answer we ask like 10 out of these 15 questions and then when you ask when you ask those questions the computer tells you if if assuming that just hey I want
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to give you a pill no no don't be idiot Elliot you can't just give a pill you got to rule out py embellish you got to rule out dissecting anism if rule out a
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a whole bunch of problems there's no no sexual health component to electronic health record so look think about that
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we have um if we know that men
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like of women too who have sex every day have corsal levels that average about
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half the general population well that's a stress hormone that's you know that should lead every doctor to say hey have
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sex every day you know what else so we the big stud United Kingdom out of Wales United Kingdom showing that men over the
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age of 70 all risk other controlling risk factors like diabetes hypertension smok if they have sex twice a week
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versus men who don't have sex they cut the cardiac risk by have now you're gonna die anyway yeah but um and then
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there's you know we live in this in an age where where we have a disastrous
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divorce rate um with with horrible impact not just on the people get mental health
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people who get divorced but on uh on the children and on educ on the children's
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education on the children becoming criminal the children you know becoming getting involved with drugs well we should people have couples
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that have sex twice a week versus couples have sex twice a month have half div rate
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so uh we should we should be WR as doctors should be writing prescriptions and that divorce rate actually it's
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interesting because it climbs as you get older which means which is also related you know correlation versus causation
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right there's all that argument but there the you know this evidence would be pretty strong to say as men get older
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and women are going through per we've been learning a ton about per menopause my wife is also uh 51 you know that it
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lasts for 10 years and you know all that yeah right T Testo yeah you know so I
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mean my my wife is is s and she M my told about this you know we uh we're
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just that kind of family my daughter has a sign in her room that says if you knew my parents you understand so yeah and I
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and people told me hey don't you have any filters no I have filters they are big BS so I it's important but it's
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important to just to speak about these things so uh well I got a funny story about that real quick so I'm telling you
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know we have a big family chat got two adult kids 26 24 and then their signifant others are in our you know
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family chat so I mom Michelle my wife send a text everybody saying hey this is
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the guy that that Kevin is that your dad is interviewing on his podcast tomorrow
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and so I get a response from the daughter-in-law that said um uh talking about [ __ ] rings with my in-laws was
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definitely not on my bingo card for this month that's actually part of the
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problem though right there in a way is but like they it's not unexpected that we would that we would have that
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conversation because we're very open with that kind of stuff you know well we have inlaws who don't want to talk about
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what I do it's or my wife is in the business with me as well too so it's like as your but it's kind
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of it's weird anyway so the point being that that you know what doctors are doing gyc College in this case for women
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is it took them like 25 to 30 years to recognize that oh we can replace hormones postmenopause of women without
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producing more cancers well the Women's Health Initiative I mean you know the story how that basically just destroyed women's health
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for the last 30 years right like I'm bringing on M Michelle's Doctor Who is a
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hormone specialist we're gonna do an episode and talk all about that kind of stuff because she G to repl now if you're going to replace women their
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estrogen and progesterone what about placing their tea and this's this whole sort of fear with men with men well too
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we can talk about tea for men later on because I've learned I didn't know anything about it two and a half years ago I know a lot about it now and I know
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a lot about that that's objective yeah not not hey I took te and I feel stronger you know you know but the
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uh women women who you know it's concerned that well if if a woman takes tea she'll get a mustache well just
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[ __ ] get a mustache overnight like they'll wake up like 8 H in the morning you know if it's dose related and it's
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not irreversible if a if a woman starts and I've now pres I don't prescrib a lot of tea because it's not not my area but
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I do prescribe it uh to some women because they feel like they can't get it from there well they don't want have a
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conversation with that with well it's still off label Michelle actually we're doing HRT right now right and she's been
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having a lot of injuries she lifts weights we lift weights two of us we've done it for forever she's been getting a
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lot more soft tissue injury which is related to tea levels in in most cases
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that you know recovery and soft tissue and muscle and all that kind of stuff so we're going to start on testosterone and
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by the way she gets a Year's worth of testosterone for a hundred bucks where you get from put put that it's that gel
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it's a gel but it's off label the doctor's like well technically we're not
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I'm not even approved to to prescribe this for well my wife's experience and and and and the other women I prescribed
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to is almost injectable because the my wife my wife has a couple other women I prescribed to they just find the gel
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they got smear the gal time well she's trying them we'll see how it goes I inject I have I do trt so yeah I I I
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take teston as well too but so do my wife my wife's reaction to testosterone was why didn't I know about about this
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20 years ago because I because I spent the last you know probably from from you know men not beon Perry MOS menopausal
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real postmenopausal 50s up to age 70s that's 15 years of her life where she we
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make love a lot um and she's but I have but it me initiating yeah too uh and
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with her like you if I get turned on I'll get into it kind of mindset and again these type of conversations that people really should have people don't
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like having these conversations this this is real uh and you know ask 55 or 60 70 year old woman when was the last
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time you were horny yeah yeah it be it would be like oh five years ago 10 years
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ago and now my wife was morning yeah so we had took a while to get the right dose uh and when when the dose is a
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little bit too high I thought it was great uh but it was it was interated
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with our even our driving I mean you know I mean Thanksgiving this one thanks we driving out to visit friend you know
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down in Wyoming and I you know when was the last time we we had sex while driving I mean
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it been it been a long time and it was fun but also dangerous so I I I recommend I recommend it but I I can
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contest it but now but now my wife has she has desire now it's not you know like when she was 20 but it's it's there
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and she and she enjoys it and I enjoy it as well too awesome a lot yeah yeah well I'm excited to talk more about uh with
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this other with her doctor about per menopause and how long it lasts and what it disservice you know sh's been like
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going through all this stuff for 10 years and but you know HRT is the devil
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right it's going to kill you like next week canc away you're just gonna die you
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turn to a guy right well what is erectile Fitness like let's you know
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obviously I know about other kinds of Fitness but this phrase why because
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because it occurred to me um the course of development this business that there
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are certain words that were used to describe women your when you were a toddler you know I'm a lot older than
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you back in the 70s or 80s women were still being described as anorgasmic frigid cold uh you know it it was
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negative uh and the feminists for better W for the best you know drove that out and also then Along Came vibrators to
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make things a lot easier um hysterical hysterical one the word was used um it
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occurred to me that all the words used describe men because we get dumped on are negative you Lim dick impotent you
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know noodle dick you know just you know that you know it's all and women and it's and
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and so I want to talk about men's issues positively because I really want because I really a lot of what we're doing I yes
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a lot of we're doing are on the diagnos side they're diagnostic AIDS uh and on the performance pleasure side you can
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call them AIDS but why don't we call them answers yeah uh you know we don't we don't call women's vibrators crutches hey get hey honey get the crutch out
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tonight you know it's we don't you know it's not just unacceptable right you know to do that and and men and their
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and and their and you know culturally we need to talk about things more positively so before there's dysfunction
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there's Fitness uh we are all even people I'm not healthy I have no no me cl and you are
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you're really healthy too yeah I know he the doctor but I we're all on the road though from Fitness to dysfunction right
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uh and we all even men as fit as you uh myself for that matter I don't
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technically have youd but I really actually do because we all develop some point we develop Venus League syndrome
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uh I can get that in a moment so but on on this road we're lost we don't know where we are uh we uh there's no
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dashboard uh we can't look under the hood so to speak to see what see there's no red light down yellow yellow light
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yellow light right you know you're you look really fit out here on the outside because one one one the thankfully we
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don't look like Rudolph right one one of the the uh things we
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always say in the are is uh eat right stay fit die anyway yeah so we're all
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this road to so if we could find out where we are we could then make a u-turn or we could or we could then uh look
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under the hood and what what's wrong with the r the analogy so that's what the tech ring by firm Tech does you know
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we are allowing uh men to objectively assess their sexual health and and and to
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assess the impact of real pandemics I me you and I don't have this issues obesity
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diabetes hypertension metabolic disorders aerosis um I me they're talking about more than
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half adult population there uh and uh and then there are the medications that doctors often prescribe
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with good intentions but that make can make things worse anti-hypertensives and uh antidepressants being the two big
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[ __ ] and click killing you know categories and then on the on the positive side potentially positive side
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you can measure the impact of things that may may not make things better they though they being uh not talking about
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sexual health supplements um shock wave therapy P shots plasma shots um stem cell
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injections all these sort of experimental things Botox injections that uh men who were looking for a
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solution to their help to their um to their dysfunction or who want who want
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this want to sustain their Fitness I want it you know you know it's the you know you can't you can't go to the gym
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and get a a get a dick that's equi to your body right you know you can't you because the sexual health I mean you get
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kicked out if you're trying to use the machines might tear something
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off uh the you know it's because it's smooth muscle function right uh and you
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can and the way you exercise smooth muscles is by using it so if you you know you or I both uh decided to fast
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because we're really depressed about what's going on in our country right now and this and we fasted for three weeks then then uh
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went to a steakhouse downtown and and and ordered a uh you know a T-bone and
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and and and a leader of beer whatever [ __ ] you know whatever we would get sick we throw it up because smooth muscle
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gastrointestin system is atrophy and we have we I've had call Patient so they're really they're really custom I've had
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several men who uh have been abstaining from sex they're in good physical
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condition they are divorced or their or their their wife their wife died and they meet someone else and they want to sexual activity but they have atrophy
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because you really it is a use it or lose it situation and if you don't have a partner you you got hands yeah um and
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and there are other devices other devices too right so it it is it is us to L it and so what but we're trying to
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provide men with with data so they can they can assess these things objectively and the great thing about the arc
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technology is we get we want to because this is um this is at home in privacy
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technology this isn't go to a lab sleep lab go to your doctor this isn't your doctor treating you as if you're like
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everyone else because one one of the great errors of Medicine with good intentions is uh we treat everyone's one
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size fits all right so again if you and I we're both we're in difficulty different ages different conditions help ho your wife and get my wife in here too
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different gers but if we all went to a doctor and said hey you know I'm depressed and the doctor said put us on some crappy SS medication it be the same
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[ __ ] dose regardless of of differences in in in weight or age it might be a little difference if woman's really lightweight but basically the
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same dose or same thing of blood pressure medicine well what you really want to do is follow things on a daily basis to see
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for at least when you start in medication to see where what the impact is so for myself personally um because
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I'm this this da maybe probably because I'm a little older back in October last year I my blood pressure
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started going up uh so I started taking linil um common stter blood pressure
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medication for My AG well my dick got 15% less hotter why would I so I could it wasn't parent to me I'm it goes from
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here to here you know you you really know if 50% you start to you know get your attention but why would I take
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something that's into fing the blood flow my P what other parts of my body is blood flow to and you know Etc so I
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stopped taking it I switched to to L Saran and that's I'm gonna go back to blood pressure moment because even though I want to talk about sets so many
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men have high high blood pressure is so such a big problem so I started on losartan and then the thought occurred
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to me that with on the on the sexual side with a tech ring we now become an N
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of one and and medical ter like sub number of subjects right because we're all different so we so just the way and
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I want to talk about tea and that in the MST moment but we're not going to be an end of one so okay I'm an end of one let me start taking my blood pressure first
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twice a day then once a day then once every other day and realize that my blood pressure is only up like two or three times a week yeah and I don't
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really so why would I take a pill if I have blood pressure in the morning why would I take a pill when my blood
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pressure a normal yeah and have it go lower what does that you know doesn't make it's talk the waste of money doesn't make any sense physiologically
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right there's no reason to to manipulate that system that is not really broken
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right correct right uh and you know so that's so so when it
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comes to what to to sex men can now you can be an N of one so for example a lot of men taking pd5 medications with v you
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know talil SED the most common ones well what's the right dose for you you know I
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I notic milligrams six milligrams is a 10 is a 20 do I need it is it even having an
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impact yeah so uh you know we did a study because Mo most men's
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problem and this is this is one things you know one of the basic questions that a doctor or urologist or reach or Manch
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ask themselves if they're concerned about Ed the sexual health is well is my problem that I can't attain an erection
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is my problem I can't sustain an erection yeah the men and the doctors don't even ask that question I should be like I'm ask electronic health record
29:28
before you prescribe bagra before you recommend someone get a Doppler test
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can actually connect it maybe you're good to go when you start but then if you decide to spend some time in other
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foreplay or pleasuring her or whatever right then it then it goes away right
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and it's more difficult to get it back or you know whatever I'm I'm certain when you and I like when I was 13 years old I could hold a girl's hand have a
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heart on for an hour and a half I love my wife that a't happening anymore yeah you know um and that gets into the Venus
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League thing but the but if a man can't attain direction that man and that's a
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consistent problem not just like with I'm I'm I can't get up with her it's
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like just can't get it up if you can't get up for yourself you know right when when your hand tells you
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I'm I'm I'm done yeah this is I'm re tired you know uh so that that man needs that man
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that man not only see urologist that man need to see a cardiovascular specialist because most that the most common cause
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of back dysfunction is C cardiovascular disease uh and that's and and so one the
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risk that men take is by going on getting pills they could be masc problem so but most problem is they get an
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erection they lose it and that's multifactorial uh for young guys young
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guys who are dating or even older guys who are dating it's usually PS anxiety and I the number of guys that I mean I
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easily 15 20 guys a year no exaggeration about 10 guys a year that that I prescribe pd5 medications to are guys
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your age on up they are divorced um or they something happen their wife and and they start dating people are 15 20 years
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younger than them and and when I write the description it's like in month now you're not going to need this if this
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relationship is good you're not going to need it because once this trust in relationship somehow the pr problem magally goes away because the problem is not that they need the pill the pills
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for here pill pill is Trea in their head so I'm I've got guys who tell me that the works when in their wallet or the
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night table well and there's some research with even younger guys now getting issues because of the dopamine response
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to pornography and like kind of crazy stuff I don't know if that's I don't know if I I could talk about por twoo
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but the U but most men the pd5 medications many need to understand this
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they put blood in the penis okay but do they keep it there and they don't keep
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it there very well uh that's the problem so if you already can get an erection and you don't have diabet or
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hypertention get an tion P5 medications yeah they'll help a little bit but what you need really need is a mechanical
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solution I and I didn't you know I got involved at first in the technology aspect this helping men make their
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objective their sexual performance objective and then being able to measure uh interventions diseases against that
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but then it occurred to me I I've played around with [ __ ] rings since I was
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a you know kid probably you know uh not you know early lesson uh and I never
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they never really interested me they were they these hard silicone Rings they pinch they uncomfortable um they but in
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order to count the number of nocturnal erection that men have overnight I had to reinvent the [ __ ] ring so [ __ ] ring
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in my mind went from being oh a novelty you you can get in the SE local sex toy store and throw out after to use it once
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or twice to I have to come up with something that is going to be comfortable that uh that's going to be
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safe where for long of time and that so that thinking went into into the tech
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ring Tech ring is made out of yeah got I brought one here for you it's
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present but you should know your data your wife can help with this by the way it helps have an assistant so that
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that's the tech ring interesting well you you demonstrate
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this's sample here I'm G leave this with you um if we um this is a sampler so you have to go online to get the instru
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Little Instruction there there there's there's a sensor in here sensor in here you drop it doesn't go on it doesn't go
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down the shaft you drop your balls in and it wraps around okay so it almost Clips on right corre and the idea for
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the for this I owe to my wife so um for how it goes on
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because I mean there it is the a scratch wise you know I'd say
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probably oh God some guy use this phrase on me today it always makes me laugh I feel so political I was on Mark was
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talking about het heteronormative sex
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okay right okay as opposed to well you know gay sex why do we say how normative
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it's a mouthful you know uh the you know scr you know I don't
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know about your wife my wife likes to have her back scratch when a bra comes off at night especially in the summer yep because bras are uncomfortable and
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bras have have a silicone panel on the back and silicone pinches and we all seen women you know adjusting this
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because it's you know you it just starts to you know you know pinch on the skin a little bit so I was scratching your back
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and I looked on the floor at a bra and I said oh there a hook it's a hook you know what's a [ __ ] ring what's a bra a a
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[ __ ] bra is a ring that goes on over the head close of the hook why are we making [ __ ] rings out these hard silicone Rings
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you got to pinch snap around uncomfortable dig sure don't snap too hard right and soon soon as you come you
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want the thing off right away because my painful so that's that's that's that's the idea for that form and then after
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coming up with that my thought was well how can I I realize that if men lose
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their erections as they get as they get older even if they even they're healthy I'm certain that you like I said when you were young I'm certain when you held
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the girl's hand you got you get hard for a long time I'm certain you like the wife it doesn't happen anymore right you don't walk around with an rection
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downtown when you're shopping Supermarket holding your wife's hand right just where and why is it because
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um well there are there it's multifactorial but one but one of the the reasons is is that the as we get
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older the smooth muscle around our small veins and the vest themselves vest becomes stiffer and small muscle gets
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weaker uh I'm as you comment I'm fairly fit I've always been lean but if I sit
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on a plane for four or five hours my socks get a little bit tight that might even be a little bit a little moreing my socks my rings might get a little tight
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especially if I fall asleep and you know off well that didn't happen to me when I was 25 years old did happen to you when
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you were 25 no because that you were fit then in a way that because you smooth muscle fit if you will right y uh
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and the so that's just that's just part of the aging process now it's it's it's a diabetes hypertension after the scoll
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these things obes these things can can you know can make it worse so my thought was well it's hardly likely that men all
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men now men not just men with Ed but men without Ed all men would benefit from a
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mechanical solution that would address Venus leak and that's a cockr so
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uh two points I want to make one the medical community calls cockin constriction Rings what's [ __ ] like a
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Nazi term I constriction that does that does sound like a torture device imagine
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imagine if you have Ed constriction so it's I I call them rection Rings all you know or [ __ ] ring
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um women um one of the issu women have even more
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difficulty if you were holding blood in the claror so they could alter uh and part there hormonal issues their medical issues ETC but one of the issues is
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mechanical form men we you know BL us into our dicks and our penis is
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surrounded by epidermis blood can't go anywhere right uh women Prem menopausa
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women put as much blood into the Claris when they're having sex as men put their penis where's it going now I didn't know
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this until think about this I'm a doctor and I've only met one doctor who knew this she's she's obsessed with
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sex but and most of vetal secretions are a transum
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DAT from the clitoris now I you know we I've always assume that that that that there are mucus producing glands now
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there are mucus producing glands glands the outside of the vagina and there are some along the re she spot you Etc but
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and then they but that mucus mixes with a transudate which is serum blood serum
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from the clitoris not kind of mine it's kind of mind blowing because the clear is not surrounded by epidermis oh penis
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isn't that interesting yeah well they you know if you look at the actual diagram now of what they've learned how large the cus is and the amount of the
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amount of uh material that it you know like it's a it's a large so why so why
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do vibras help women so obviously there's there's there's neurological stimulation that's a big part of it but
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vibrations also increase blood flow and sustain blood flow so vibrators are great for frankly all women but
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especially for postmenopausal women uh because they're they're they're stimulating you know increase blood flow
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yeah and I will say I mean that's a good I like to make the point that it is not a replacement for like if you're a dude
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and you have and you have some sort of anxiety or whatever about this right you
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it's not it's it's not a replacement for you it's a tool to assist in bettering
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your sexual relationship right like that's what it's for you know in my lifetime vibrators
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have gone mainstream and [ __ ] rings haven't and [ __ ] rings need to go mainstream for men men need to get to
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get Beyond so you know my mother's vibrat was my kid in the we and Supply cloth in the bot you know bottom dress
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BR and draw I don't know how you know you God knows about my parents sex life
40:10
the the um you know I don't I don't how many wife my iPhones back in the 70s or
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80s before you were sexually active um or just starting there was a certain shame for woman oh you your she's
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vibrate dependent you got to come pant that's main that's gone now yeah most
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cultures uh you know a daughter takes on dates you they're you know they give away bash thread parties it's just
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mainstream and and I certainly don't you know my wife wants to use a Viator while while we're having sex I'm
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well great wish I had something equivalent yeah right because we don't men don't so my thought was how can I
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enhance men men's sexual pleasure uh and 90% of gay men use [ __ ] rings regularly
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10% of straight guys did what is it they know that we don't know well cocking hold can hold more blood in the penis the more blood is held in the penis the
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more sensitive penis is but these silicone rings are are uncomfortable and
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my thought was you know guys got Strokers but they're kind beat someone to death with they haven't put on uh
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what about putting the right amount pressure over the arthra to prolong the ejaculation not to choke it off but to
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prolong the ejaculation uh so we experimented on 11 men here in Bosman you could been want test subject that we not known each
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other 11 men age 28 7 the oldest one with a goal of coming up with the right
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here it is called the maximum performance R I can give you this as well too so this is a little bit tighter than
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this less stretch in this ring so and so this is the data Gathering di it's a it's a good [ __ ] ring because you can
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put it on you can tighten it up around the shaft and then you want you're de you Loos up overnight so it's more comfortable this was designed to
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increase the ejaculatory phase by 50% my jatory phase with this goes from 4 seconds to 7 seconds and we
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had one of the the youngest guy in the group went to about 10 seconds from about four and a half seconds so it's so
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that's that's like from the point of no return to you got you're done you're done right exactly yeah okay and but I
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want beond when you're done I'll get that a second okay so uh you know I I
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never use [ __ ] rings regularly and I don't have sex without a [ __ ] ring specifically this one not the one giving
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you but the same the same model uh let's spray that down but you
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know and my wife are do four CU guyss are easiest just thought to out you know like you ready stop working I guess I'm
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ready go to the computer oh God you know it's like you know yeah that's right on off switch I don't need answer that
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email and I just G wait till tomorrow and uh let's go I was talking to somebody that you know a lot of times guys are considered onoff switches and
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it's like depending on your age and where you're at it could just be an on right it just yeah I remember those yeah
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but you can't accomplish anything when you have that I I really think it was not until
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my probably my early 40s that that I actually began to accomplish things in
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business because my sex drive was tempered if you well anyway this is
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dynamite so so the this is our most popular popular s the
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because it makes sex better whether whether you have e or you know or don't have e so what's this is enormous
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confidence Builder as well too so again back to well your problem is
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you just you get an erection you lose it well at my age I'm married 36 years now
43:33
there were certain positions that bore me people don't like to talk about this but bored
43:38
him is a huge factor in a relationship and people don't oh you're bored you don't like me you know no no talk about
43:43
you know there I don't know how many kids your wife has had how many kids two two we've had three there are certain uh
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physical chains of the vagina that make it less attractive in certain positions I the I don't get the friction that I
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want uh and and there are certain positions that if it's lasting too long
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go to that position take care of it right you know it's like right hey we
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got somewhere to be it's 4 in the morning you're physically fit but you
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some point I could cardiovascular like like that's right my blood pressure cff out right so and and what's great about
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this is once I and I hear about you know this again this we have hundreds of testimonies about this guys of all ages
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once you get turned on if something happens that might turn you off for and it could be wa I know missionary
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position for me is like it's like boring um and my wife likes it well if I have
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the ring on hey and I have a heart on a guy with a hard on thinks very different than a guy losing worried about losing his hard on that's right yeah yeah I
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mean the first the first time you'll Rel here in BOS the first when I came up the Prototype which was the year ago
44:54
February um my wife in the middle of sex and I don't know about your wife but a lot of guys have this complaint and I
44:59
have this complaint my wife acknowledged it which is some out the middle of passionate sex
45:05
you start talking about something else like something happened with your mother Something Happened One the kids or
45:10
something something else and you know look I'm I'm a guy and have a temper my reaction after many years of marriage
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would be what the [ __ ] you know you can't hold off that thought for like 30 seconds or I how about five minutes cuz
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right uh it would have been good for both of us but now now I'm angry irritated uh so my wife says to me
45:31
February oh I think left the garage and the door of the house snowing
45:38
I said uh now I know about your marriage but assume your marriage like my most marriages it's not my wife who's going
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to jump out of bed close the garage door close the house door uh and come up with
45:51
a with a hey let me blow you makeup look on her face I don't know it's I maybe maybe you have the kind of mar if you have the kind of marriage I'm jealous
45:57
okay but I doubt it 29 years for us yeah so it's um you know so I get out of bed
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and I'm irritated um because it would have been I would have
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better mood about it 10 10 minutes later I she back the rear door of her car is
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open because she' been taking stuff out of the car I Clos all the doors by now I'm uh realizing that even though I'm
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irritated I haven't lost my erection I have cuz I have the prototype for the spring on no I'm not fully hard I'm like
46:30
you know like you like like that hard I'm coming at the I'm coming at the house and she says hey Ellie do you know that uh that Ino the tequila I like he
46:36
puts him on ice for me now ordinarily that would have been another WTF
46:43
explosive Moment Like get your own F and you know when I make love I'm angry uh sleep on your side of there but I come
46:50
says tequila and and and my wife says well the garage door was open but
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tequila was a and she was right because my because you know I'm a guy 75% hard you know like
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okay well let's get back into it you know uh and that's that's we make love with this maximum this ring about twice
47:10
as long as we as we did before because there's no longer this rushed orgasm uh because we both know that and she so it
47:17
increases her confidence as well as my conf we both know that we can get distracted we can even um just kiss and
47:23
have foreplay and just get back into it Edge each other just been I know going on about this but it's been a yeah it's
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been it's been a game changer for us in our marriage and many other people's well that's another good point though because I think so many men like that's
47:34
the goal right orgasm like this is the only reason right and really for someone like us you've been married six more
47:41
years than me but it's it's yeah it's like intimacy and connection even for and that's the whole
47:48
that's the whole U you know thing that they say about guys right like it's all you care about is that no like that
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connection is the is the m is a big part of it a huge part of it well another
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thing about this ring so which is that it and this we did a comparison this ring after climax to 10 milligrams of
48:08
Dil number one prescribed pd5 medication United States so here I was interested in studying what and again this is one
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thing that's so revolting about Healthcare System we are so we men all
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really care about sex and you have no data and we're about we're about to publish in two weeks to our our base
48:28
what's the average number of nocturnal erections per night by by age 25 35 no
48:34
one has the data that's out there is based upon a study of like 200 guys in the 1990s we have four we've documented
48:40
close to 45,000 erections that's we have data about how long most guys last and
48:45
we know we're g we're going to publish this course year that's really so you can then compare yourself where am I but
48:51
we getting back to the D2 messes D2 M the time it takes from climax to be unable to penetrate again now okay you
48:58
married a long time so it's the case it's case to me as well too I don't need to stay hard because my you know it's
49:05
wife always comes first that's just that's the way it is most successful right you so that's prob come third too
49:10
the um yeah there's like the yeah if if you're doing it right there's a pre and then a post and then sometimes during
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like yeah there's a I don't get to come I have managed with this with this ring to come twice in 90 minutes un last year
49:23
that hasn't happened in a long yeah that refractory period a long time yeah yeah I know I that that's we can talk about
49:29
later on I have an idea about it but but with this so with um with nothing my
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well wasn't my we we this study we had 21 Men the study uh average erection went down in
49:43
low like around 30 seconds uh because men rage age from 28 to 70 um with 10
49:48
Mill to dille was common pill out there uh it was it was a littleit over two
49:54
minutes with this ring this the max PR it was a little go four minutes and with the two together was a little go five
50:00
minutes so what the takeaway here for um men is hey you want to maximize your
50:07
performance uh put a ring on and take a pill the ring is better better than a pill and that's a game changer for
50:13
urologist because their whole doctors don't think about they don't [ __ ] about [ __ ] rings they don't they think they think about pills because the idea would
50:19
be the point of no return the orgasm and then there's a hyper sensitivity but
50:24
then not long after that you're still hard you're okay and you can continue right because that during that hyper
50:31
sensitivity phase you're like all right that's right but that's it doesn't last few seconds but but if it's still hard I
50:37
mean sometimes my wife used it to come to come again but you actually it's more of an in you get you you could you
50:42
touched on something that's really important to talk about because young guys they're they're they're growing up in a transactional world they're not
50:48
thinking about romance think I mean My Generation talked about making love your generation too yeah talk hooking up yeah
50:56
Hing up having sex you have sex my daughter like I'm just got engaged like asked her what
51:02
do you what you what are your friends talk about you ever use a pH making love and like I can't a blank look in their
51:08
face like they just that's just not how they think about it but a guy with a heart on think again thinks differently
51:14
so I'm still hard after I come comfortably hard not with some uncomfortable cocking you know pinching
51:20
we're now talking we're just just it's just it's just it's more romatic more more more bonding and more and it's
51:27
valuable for oxytocin and like all of those you are kind of yeah because and then it because you're not trying to
51:34
pull the off and you got it yeah all of that kind of stuff so it allows you to stay in that moment exactly okay and
51:40
that's been it's hard to quantify that but that's been really I quantify TR the amount of time that's objective that
51:45
that we know so and and that's that's a I think that most men who have anxiety
51:54
or worried about their performance the first thing they do is get ring there're no side effects of the Ring yeah they no
52:00
there there no contraindications to you know take you know you know know to a ring uh but that's there it's gonna
52:08
that's you know farmer you know you go back to the original Viagra papers vag were Placebo was 40% as
52:16
effective as AG it was vag was like marginally more effective than nothing uh but they threw a lot of money behind
52:22
it yeah yeah because that's a and if they could come up with one for women they would make a ton of money too yeah
52:30
you know because there's not that equivalent right I do want to talk about testosterone sure you know you put um I'm on trt I had actually a motorcycle
52:37
accient you know I I had a motorcycle accident in the late 90s and actually
52:42
love I've told this story before I don't know if I've told her on the podcast but I I left a dent in my guting with my
52:50
left tester so literally just just just fractured it yeah yeah so you know this
52:56
was pre-kids so you're you know I'm fine there but I but my assumption so when I got my te tested I was I was probably 46
53:04
47 maybe 4 it was like 240 it you know low and I felt like crap and game you
53:11
know I work out and I'm still gaining body fat and all this stuff so you had testosterone a 7-y old man yeah yeah so
53:17
and of course you look at the data it's like well 300 is the normal right that we get I I've talked about that on the
53:23
podcast how that hold normal go ahead yeah what's normal what's not normal but so I have a mechanical reason I believe
53:29
for low testosterone right and so I've been on testosterone for a while my normal like I feel good it's about a
53:36
thousand my free testosterone and so I'm curious like how
53:42
all that plays in and what you're what how you're you know going through it and I also want to ask you you know along
53:48
those lines is if you've got someone that's 300 pounds eats like crap smokes
53:55
all like what what do you do like obviously all these things also need to be fixed right like
54:01
if first of all if you can't see your penis you know it's time to stop eating well it's easy to put this it's easy to
54:06
put this one on because it Clos with the hooks look down if you have to lift anything up in
54:12
order to see your penis there's there's probably a problem and so you know and everybody's got their own Journey right
54:18
I say that here you know because there's a health like you take someone if I come
54:24
in and talk to you about this right you're going to be like well I don't smoke I don't drink I don't do drugs I'm fit you know all these things
54:31
so then that allows you to isolate right it's easier versus like
54:36
all right this guy has this laundry list of health problems what do you do as a
54:41
as a physician and as a you know with this technology like what's your approach and then you know talk about
54:46
that and te at the same time well when it comes to um obesity smoking excessive
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alcohol drug use that that's us an old fashioned wor these devices and and it
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requires significant self-control for a person to get to get a handle on them if they have if they're successful or they
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develop really bad habits by devices and so uh when it comes to things like blood
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pressure though picking the right medicine or picking the right antidepressants or figuring out whether the tea works
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for you then this device valuable so like you know this device is not going to tell me that I
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can't someone's not not use teering and we have people who um we we do know uh with one very small
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study that actually people who eat high glycemic meals have less re have less
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nocturnal blood flow at night interesting and that's interesting uh so yeah be interesting to study processed
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foods and versus Whole Foods and and all that but and I wish you know and and if someone good luck getting the GRS on
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someone give someone give me a couple hundred million dollars I'm happy to I'm happy to say a nonprofit I any money on
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this uh but because there are so many things that because we now have a way of making it objective because it could hey
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we need to be openminded it could be that eating Twinkies maybe it's good for your dick I don't know you know but
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maybe Twinkie day is what you know but I doubt it but yeah but these things my point I'm joking these things these
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things could actually you know be studed you could actually and I don't I you know hey maybe stop smoking
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cigars to get more nocturnal directions I I I don't know I I'd hope so I would imagine that that probably would be the
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case when it comes to certain specific things you get with t being one hyp EST depressants or t you actually can see
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whether you can start to look at an end organ and see what see what the impact is so when it comes
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to um high blood pressure which we spoke about before really I'm really concerned
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about what's going on the the brain the heart kidneys so we we know that people consistently run systolic over 180 or
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diastolic over 12 these people are really really in trouble most people fall into the gray Zone I did like hey
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blood pressure like 135 over you know 88 maybe you should take you know probably take yeah maybe I should maybe I
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shouldn't I don't know but it but I would really like to know what's you know is it having any impact on my heart
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my brain my kidneys and we don't know that because it's just an association so now now now we're back with the penis th
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the um you men utiliz utilizing this can take can get get a baseline I'm before I
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go out and spend you know $1,000 a year you're getting s expensive before I go out and spend a lot of money uh and get
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you know what's my Baseline because if I if if if um and and then we're all n of one so we
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have a lot of guys who um uh one men I speak to tend to be they've heard me
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speak on podcast they know I'm older they feel more comfortable speaking to me I probably spoken to I 15 20 men in
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their 60s and 70s recently last few months who starting testosterone therapy and some respond and some don't they're
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take the same dose got guys who in that in the low normal range not say 250 you know three low 300 all the same dose
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well one they end up different places they end up at 600 800 1,200 uh and then
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what's really the free testosterone uh and then what's the impa end organ
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impact great so I'll talk I'm talk about myself to make subjective uh and I will say some of the
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men we who are using this technology can see hey you know I don't I'm at
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1200 uh my doctor PHS is too high I should be 800 if I cut back what's happening my what's happening on my
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nocturnal erections so that's the primary just we didn't really say but is that the primary measurement that we're
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that we're using we're meing we're metion the number of nocturnal directions and how long they last how
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hard they are and it can be one during sex so measuring how long and hard you are okay during sex so uh
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uh so so with utilizing this the guy can say and and again we we talk about
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morning wood but one re the morning is not enough you match be happen three to five and again you're
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you and I are different you should be having probably one more than me yeah I have several during the night like I yeah but but you'll soon be able to know
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just how many and again you're really healthy I don't if for you and I want to get back to S for a second for you this
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would be valuable just to establish a baseline just hey you you know your Baseline blood pressure you know based on electricity well we talk about it in
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terms of testosterone too if you're in your 20s and you're listening to this go get a blood test yeah get your testosterone so you know what it was in
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your mid 20s early your doctor's not going to order for you unless you demand it because they don't consider that to be important well here we have ID I go
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to tried they send it to lab core and I've got it right it's 100 bucks for doing so again so to
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testosterone we have men who can cut back they want to have they want to keep
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themselves at at at um these are older guys three nocturnal and and during sex
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they wanted we're on one to 10 scale uh and these are guys who you know hey if I
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cut back and I go I drift down from a 10 to an eight maybe I've cut back too far but they just try to try nail down with
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the right dose because of other side effects that they're concerned about what what is the or they just think they
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have a number in mind de have number mind yeah well we all want to be a 10 yeah so uh um can you really go too high
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with testosterone but you know there I think testosterone is really self is really safe um well I describe
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it on the podcast we've talked about guys that are doing steroids right like I take my vial less is 200 mil or 200
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milligrams last seven weeks typically for me I do right one to 1.2 a week
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twice I split them you know these guys are doing that every day three days a week or you know like that's that we we
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had one of our youngest guys his wife Bor Maring so she was in her early 30s uh and he was in his late 20s and
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they wanted to have kids and they want to have an active sex life and they just had moved they have their job they're trying to blah blah and they were
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tripping all their their difficulties in bed or having a child conceiving to all these other issues um and she heard
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about a about tech ring on a podcast and she bought it for him he didn't want to use it hey you know this guy you you're
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buff This Guy's super buff he's in the 20s he's ripped he's send me a picture himself de body RI out and I looked him
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and thought he's probably taking to probably anyway he's Tak so he his wife
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he didn't want to use this so his wife said well if I give you a blow job you we overnight there you go guys you
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know we're so we're so easy we so we like this is why we know that men don't
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actually rule the world I say this all the time women just let us think that we rule the
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world yeah so anyway he and you know he was
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having one weak nocturnal he he was he he had a dead dick uh and he was just
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testosterone he's taking other elicit and he was H he was you got yeah Tren
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and all that stuff yeah he was and they um he was one of our first users of the
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tech ring and he stopped it they now have a a baby uh there she's pregnant
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their second and they and they have an active sex lot uh and he loves he probably didn't L he he he probably
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didn't lose that much muscle he can't compete anymore he he had to make that mindset changed from well do I want to
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have successful sex life and children or do I want to be someone that gay guys
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stare at because I'm I'm really ripped you know so he made my perspective the
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you know the right choice right right choice so um it can benefit you know younger
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wom younger men so when I was thinking about t myself what really was uh when I got involved in this I was
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speaking to my friends you know good friends who VAR age from guys the 50s up to late 70s um and everyone's taking
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te uh and whether they need or not from my perspective if they show me the lap
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test like why you need it uh and then so so my thought was well okay I'll take t
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uh what am I I spoke to my neurologists these are people who prescribe to you all time but they don't prescribe it
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objectively because they don't have this and I said okay well um what what do you think is gonna happen then they we
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doctors more interested in Nocturnals because they're at night they're not influenced by porn boredom hot wife but all all these
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alcohol marijuana all these things less factors away sleeping and they so we should should nocturnal should last
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longer and get harder maybe have an extra one and there's no change whatsoever because I don't really have
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Ed I've being a s but I don't really don't really have Ed but um I was
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Stronger and that was objective I went you know I have a I have a routine that I do three times a week for 50 minutes
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and most of it's kind of CrossFit kind of stuff but there is like because I'm a guy have to do some interest curls you
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know uh and I went from you know the my last set of curls being 45 last set of curls being 55 well that was surprising
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to me it was I wasn't pushing it yeah my I hadn't set a goal doing this and I went from you know these are small
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numbers next to you but I went from bench pressing around7 to bench pressing close 200 200 is great you proba only weigh
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156 pound yeah I'm 200b but it was it it was you know um it it took me back
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actually yeah because I uh I work out I you know I don't work out to get my heart rate yeah but you have some
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musculature like you can see you you've got veins and you know I mean I can tell that you actually do LIF right and you
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probably have an ass unlike most 70y old men who are concave that's right like that's the
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yeah and that's a real problem for other that's least other health issues because they lose their PCG muscle tone as well
1:05:05
too anyway that that's why I still take tea and and subjectively you probably feel this too I think I feel I recover
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from injury faster it absolutely recovery you know soreness all those I
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ride horses aggressively I live here in Montana came back C uh and I just well
1:05:22
that requires inner and outer thigh strength your quads my age a lot there's a lot offf I
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can stiff it stiff more easily uh and I don't have I I get hor I get hor on on
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again the next day and go for another four hours so it doesn't those are subjective benefits anyway so but we we
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do have men who who uh who have U repti so when talking about Fitness
1:05:46
dysfunction I invented the reptile Fitness score and then and it's a computer interpretation of your your
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nocturnal sexual performance and your sexual performance when when when you're having sex and we hope that will become
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the standard of care with a partner or without does make any difference and we will um that will will come and OBC the
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standard care it's it's gon to take two or three years we've patented it there are four Studies have been published
1:06:10
using it not published present they presented at meetings except of
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publication they get really get published they're more they're more coming and that you know just the way if
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you're over the age of 40 45 and you go for a physical you get your blood pressure you know your numbers they're
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in the future you're G to want know your rectile Fitness score because if you're 45 and things deteriorate you want to
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see you you want to be able to see a problem before it comes a problem down there yeah yeah I love it I mean it's
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it's um so with the T just T we've had I I don't want to discourage my again I didn't get any harder from it because
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I'm already hard we we we have customers who who have determined the right dose
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and have gone from an erectile Fitness score hard of of six seven up to 8 to 10
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yeah I mean I'm a guy that's I'm very attune with you know what I'm putting in my body I know how carbs affect me how
1:07:05
too much protein too little protein I know what my tea level is you know all of that stuff so I love I love the data
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aspect of it I think that's really cool I always say one of the reasons I do I work out really hard and testosterone
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helps is because I do stupid stuff I make bad decisions so great I
1:07:22
love the story so I'm we're you know we built bu my wife and I built that shop there's a 3,400 foot shop out here that
1:07:29
she and I have built every bit of so I'm up on a ladder it's precarious I should have never put the ladder where where it
1:07:35
was and I fell my leg got caught in the aluminum ladder and you know I'm and I was fine
1:07:43
like it I did not get hurt I fell like six feet and then I get up and look at the step of the ladder my my quad and my
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femur bent the ladder a really strong guy I'm I'm well my bone
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strength is great cuz I lift weights and look but but my my and I make bad decisions like that that's how I'll be a
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fit 100y old must it didn't hurt that badly that's the thing like it's it's a
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and so that injury prevent whereas somebody else you know you take a misstep going up the stairs and now
1:08:17
you've just shattered your hip like the top of your femur just snap right you know and that's which is what happens
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right not you don't fall and break a hip you break a hip and typic but yeah this is I mean the technology is awesome I
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don't know did you want to talk about anything else in particular you know I think you covered it how do
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people learn more about it where do they find it how do they learn more about it and uh yeah we may we may have to do
1:08:40
some studies here and then have you back about uh maybe we could uh gamify that
1:08:45
you can let people M and I mean who's who's the firest guy in bosem right now they're only three of us you compete
1:08:51
with you there you go we'll set up a j room you can get yourself like a fake name you know pseudonym you know there
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go I like that uh you you can learn about us at my firm Tech my fi RM
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tch.com you can contact me personally at lot myri tech.com
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user respond to personal things in the next two three days but I'm interested
1:09:14
in helping men uh and it's and the companies I mean we sold 13,000 devices
1:09:19
so we're not so big that I can't talk to people right and I'm interested in in the diversity of of people's experiences
1:09:26
and and needs it's been really actually speaking to my customers taught me a lot about what people are actually doing and
1:09:32
what what and and and the failures of the medical profession to address the problems uh and if I had a take party
1:09:37
message it would be you know put a ring on put a ring on it so you get data that's that's vital for your health this
1:09:43
is these this is these are the vital signs of your sexual health and what do men care more about I'm the stage of wearables what did Man Came more about
1:09:50
how many steps took yesterday or a dick I I I'm talking to myself and you I I mean got a ring on Aura right but this
1:09:57
is this isn't doing anything this do it tells me everything about sleep except for one thing right well let's talk
1:10:03
about sleep so every um every episode of REM sleep is accompanied by an erection
1:10:08
interesting so so my numbers if my so this would tell me if my rim are low if
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my rim scores low for a given night that means that nocturnal well again I don't
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I I had to order ring but I get it to my daughter but you know my my correlation we well I put more I'm just one person
1:10:28
my Engineers through four guys who have a variety of or woop you know fitp uh
1:10:35
they were getting about 10% more REM sleep by minoring their
1:10:40
erections and they're then they're getting on a peripheral what is this really telling about yeah I'm really to
1:10:46
really measure rep you you have to have an electric right uh so this is just an estimation and and my Engineers who are
1:10:52
really smart guys engineer in bosan uh
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um he laughs about the misinformation that he gets off his Aura you know and
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his it's just a guideline for me it's a yeah I don't I think they they have their they're not telling you about an
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organ and and organ yeah because that would require actually having electrodes up here yeah uh so put a ring on for to
1:11:17
get data vital data for your health put a ring on to perform better yeah and to make your partner happier yeah and talk
1:11:23
about it and talk about it yeah right like that's the big thing like for me I love you coming on and I love this topic
1:11:29
because you know we do courses and coaching and all that and like when I when I have a intimacy course and talk
1:11:35
about sex like I have to start with a diagram right because like I don't think
1:11:40
a lot of men even know what everything does you know I've had conversations with you know women they're like my
1:11:46
husband doesn't like he literally has no idea what he's doing he's in his 30s right or 40s or whatever and it's like
1:11:53
we we don't talk it's also something that comes of woman's fault hey speak up
1:11:59
yeah it's both it's both right like you have to be able to communicate and you have to be able to have these conversations and and have knowledge to
1:12:05
know where the clitter is is what a G-spot is what you know that substantial women don't even orgasm during
1:12:12
intercourse right like majority don't yeah majority don't so you have to use you know what can we do to with a
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vibrator they do yeah what we can do is we can work around that and we can you know work with it and all that stuff so
1:12:23
I think and also just things change with age people just people just need to you know God you know are
1:12:30
there there's no way I'm going to go home and have HBA or Game of Thrones sex my wife like if I picked up my wife and
1:12:37
threw against the wall and banged her for three minutes you'd think I [ __ ] mind or nor nor am I gonna go home today
1:12:44
and my wife's gonna tear off my clothes climb on top of me yeah and and and you know rape me and we're both going to come in a few minutes that's just not
1:12:50
the real world and you don't like you aren't able to have penetrative sex in
1:12:55
right 15 seconds right like unless yeah unless you're 20 years old or you know
1:13:01
have a thanful Lube in your pocket I guess that you're that you're using all the time yeah I think it's great to to
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talk about and uh yeah I appreciate you coming thank you it's pleasure man all right good man very good thank you if
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